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From:	"Britton Kerin (britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-user AT delorie DOT com>
Date:	Sun, 9 Oct 2016 16:24:05 -0800
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Subject:	[geda-user] feedback on the new gschem, the panes in particular
To:	geda-user AT delorie DOT com
Reply-To:	geda-user AT delorie DOT com

like others I have some difficulty with the new panes:

* It's not clear why things like Line Properties and Fill Properties
have such prominence as to be shown by default and perpetually visible
when pulling up a schematic.  For symbol editing perhaps yes but in
schematic editing where many users spend most of their time no

* On the Text tab: it looks like that is how editing text works, which
is potentially fine, docs are probably better than windows for this
sort of thing.  But I don't want that pane taking up space otherwise
so it needs to be able to pop out on demand

* I can't tell what Find Text tab is doing.  It doesn't seem to find
either text descriptions or refdes.  It needs tooltips or something

* Search needs a keyboard shortcut.  The measure of whether you've
implemented search right is if users start using it for navigation
instead of eyeballs and scrolling.  If they do it's a huge win,
otherwise it's just burning screen space.  Using tab to get to the
search window focus is insufficient, because especially with the other
side pane there are too many focus targets to go through, and gtk does
a terrible job of showing which one has the focus (on my system at
least).  It would be awesome if / started a search over refdes and
text that gave some kind of feedback as the search narrowed.  Failing
that just a focus change to encompass matching objects on return,
select the objects and maybe put the number of matches in that status
bar, and it would be useful.

All in all the new panes seem like good concepts on some real
problems.  Docs > windows.  Good search is awesome.  However neither
are good enough that I want to see them yet.  Fingers crossed that
they get there eventually :)

Britton

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