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On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 12:34 PM, John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com> wrote:
> Please stop bad-mouthing Vladimir’s excellent work. Guile is fundamental to gschem and gnetlist, and any improvements to guile scripting are improvements to the toolkit.
>
> None of this takes anything away from your excellent work on a different approach.

This is a nice sentiment.

> However, I do not approve of your ambition to have your alternative replace gschem and gnetlist.

This is not.

> That may happen naturally in time, but it is not a reasonable goal to pursue directly.

If that isn't what you expect from Xorn over time what do you imagine it doing?

> Please concentrate on Xorn and its potential advantages.

If you don't see it replacing more of geda's core what do you (John)
see as the point?

> On Jul 28, 2016, at 5:30 PM, Roland Lutz <rlutz AT hedmen DOT org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Vladimir,
>>
>> I took a few days off the mailing list and realized just how ridiculous this is.  Noone except hardcore Scheme fanboys is pretending that Scheme is even a thing any more.
>>
>> The point you're trying to make (Scheme being to C what C is to assembler, etc.) was true at a time when there was nothing around like Python, Ruby, or Haskell.  In particular, the reasons you brought up for choosing Scheme over other languages are even more true for Haskell.  The reason not to use Haskell is also the same as for Scheme: users don't want to wrap their minds around some crazy programming language in order to get things done.
>>
>> Literally the only reason for not immediately removing Guile from gEDA is that this would break existing setups.  There is certainly no excuse for making gEDA more dependent on Guile.
>>
>> Your're desperately clinging to a dead horse.  Please don't blame others for not mounting with you.
>>
>> Roland
>>
>>
>
> John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
> http://www.noqsi.com/
> jpd AT noqsi DOT com
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>



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