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Am 06.10.2015 um 20:06 schrieb DJ Delorie:
> except for one thing...
> 
> Instead of using the existing bug trackers, he created a new private[*]
> bug-tracker/PPA that implies that it's the official gEDA project page,
> and had all the work done in that tracker instead of the official
> ones.
> 
> [*] I say "private" because it's owned by him, and not by the geda
>     admin group.

You see, it's exactly this nonsense why I consider it pointless to put
any more work into gEDA:

1. This bug tracker isn't owned by me, it's owned by gEDAhead. A simple
look at the tracker would confirm this, but apparently you didn't even look.

2. If I had seen a chance to remove my name entirely from the gEDAhead
effort I certainly would have removed it, because "ownership" is
something impossible in a collaborative effort. Unfortunately it's not
possible to remove my name; it'll stay there just because I was the one
who clicked "create".

3. Neither gEDAhead nor this bug tracker claims to be "official".
gEDAhead doesn't care about "official". gEDAhead cares about making
development convenient and about bringing results to the users.

> He claimed it was done in the name of openness

Right. There's the explanation you're missing so badly.

If you prefer bugs fixed not only using a different bug tracker, but in
an entire code fork, please join Igor2, Peter Clifton, Stefan Salewski,
... oh, wait, all these people don't want to join anybody. Too bad.


> but neglected to
> discuss it with any of the other admins,

Up to the days when gEDAhead was successful, traditional admins were
entirely deaf. I wrote them, they didn't anwer at all. Others wrote
them, no answer either. Volunteers were clicked away without discussion.
You, DJ, claimed to have no business with this team (and actually were
member, but on the low privilege level).

Now you try hard to find reasons to attack me personally. Not all five
members of the gEDAhead team, but only me. Granted, you can attack me as
much as you want. But by attacking you won't gain anything but you own
or gEDA's destruction.

The really shocking fact for me is that the moment you became owner of
this traditional Launchpad team you fell into almost the same deafness
and stubborness your precedessors showed over the years. I had really
expected more from you.


Very obviously you simply try to cover the more than obvious failure of
the traditional team. gEDAhead was more successful in 10 days than the
traditional team in the last 2 years. Times have changed.


Markus

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