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Subject: Re: [geda-user] pcb-rnd feature poll: please vote
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I think the most important aspect of your work is having a real time
browser of the footprint being selected.
I think the usability for new users going from schematic->layout is helped
enormously by this.
How easily your demonstrated functionality could be merged into gschem or
pcb, I do not know, but the feature would be a real boon.


On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 7:44 PM, <gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> after the release of pcb-rnd today, I am pondering what to do next. I have
> a list of features I would sooner or later implement. I have my own idea
> about their priority, but I am really interested to see what PCB users
> think of them.
>
> Below is a list of the features. In curly brackets I placed my estimation
> of the relative effort - the larger the feature is, the slower I get
> anything visible/usable done.
>
> Everyone is invited to vote in email (either in private or on the list).
> Even if you are not a pcb-rnd or pcb or geda user. Everyone has 3 tokens to
> spend; reply to the mail and write "token" right under the feature you
> support. You can spend 2 or even all 3 tokens on a single feature if you
> find that important. Spending more than 3 tokens disqualifies your mail. A
> new mail from the same person overwrites their previous tokens.
>
> I will count the tokens next wednesday morning (CET). If there's enough
> voters and strong bias in votes, the outcome will have a direct effect on
> my priorities.
>
>
> 1. {large} merge pcb-gpmi in pcb-rnd: scripting within pcb, using
>    10 different languages (includes python, perl, awk, lua and guile)
>    Languages (and the dependencies they mean) are all optional.
>
> TOKEN
TOKEN
more scripting options with examples might encourage aspiring developers.

>
> 2. {large} resurrect the win32 port - only if there are volunteer windows
>    testers


> 3. {small} UI: drill adjust: set drill and/or ring to current style
>    individually or all pins on a component
>
> TOKEN, useful. I've been caught by crazy small drills for a few footprints
in the past.

>
> 3. {small} UI: trace length calculation and display
>

> 4. {small} UI: be able to manually change text line width
>
>
> 5. {small} UI: component dialog: filter by component tags, not only
>    by name
>
>
> 6. {medium?} CORE: clear poly should be a per layer flag (on each objects);
>    so that a line can clear poly on solder-gnd but join solder-pwr
>
>
> 7. {medium?} CORE: optional inverse silk or copper text: draw a fill
>    rect around the text and make the text a cutout of this fill rect.
>
>
> 8. {small} BUILD: menuconfig and a config file for scconfig
>
>
> 9. {medium} HID: resurrect the lesstif HID (pcb-rnd supports gtk at the
> moment)
>
> TIA,
>
> Igor2
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I think the most important aspect of your work is hav=
ing a real time browser of the footprint being selected.<br>I think the usa=
bility for new users going from schematic-&gt;layout is helped enormously b=
y this.<br></div><div>How easily your demonstrated functionality could be m=
erged into gschem or pcb, I do not know, but the feature would be a real bo=
on.<br></div><div><br><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote">On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 7:44 PM,  <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu" target=3D"_blank">gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu</a>&g=
t;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0=
 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi all,<br>
<br>
after the release of pcb-rnd today, I am pondering what to do next. I have =
a list of features I would sooner or later implement. I have my own idea ab=
out their priority, but I am really interested to see what PCB users think =
of them.<br>
<br>
Below is a list of the features. In curly brackets I placed my estimation o=
f the relative effort - the larger the feature is, the slower I get anythin=
g visible/usable done.<br>
<br>
Everyone is invited to vote in email (either in private or on the list). Ev=
en if you are not a pcb-rnd or pcb or geda user. Everyone has 3 tokens to s=
pend; reply to the mail and write &quot;token&quot; right under the feature=
 you support. You can spend 2 or even all 3 tokens on a single feature if y=
ou find that important. Spending more than 3 tokens disqualifies your mail.=
 A new mail from the same person overwrites their previous tokens.<br>
<br>
I will count the tokens next wednesday morning (CET). If there&#39;s enough=
 voters and strong bias in votes, the outcome will have a direct effect on =
my priorities.<br>
<br>
<br>
1. {large} merge pcb-gpmi in pcb-rnd: scripting within pcb, using<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A010 different languages (includes python, perl, awk, lua and gu=
ile)<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Languages (and the dependencies they mean) are all optional.<b=
r>
<br></blockquote><div>TOKEN<br></div><div>TOKEN <br></div><div>more scripti=
ng options with examples might encourage aspiring developers.<br></div><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c=
cc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
2. {large} resurrect the win32 port - only if there are volunteer windows<b=
r>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0testers=C2=A0</blockquote><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
3. {small} UI: drill adjust: set drill and/or ring to current style<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0individually or all pins on a component<br>
<br></blockquote><div>TOKEN, useful. I&#39;ve been caught by crazy small dr=
ills for a few footprints in the past. <br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:=
1ex">
<br>
3. {small} UI: trace length calculation and display<br></blockquote><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
4. {small} UI: be able to manually change text line width<br>
<br>
<br>
5. {small} UI: component dialog: filter by component tags, not only<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0by name<br>
<br>
<br>
6. {medium?} CORE: clear poly should be a per layer flag (on each objects);=
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0so that a line can clear poly on solder-gnd but join solder-pw=
r<br>
<br>
<br>
7. {medium?} CORE: optional inverse silk or copper text: draw a fill<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0rect around the text and make the text a cutout of this fill r=
ect.<br>
<br>
<br>
8. {small} BUILD: menuconfig and a config file for scconfig<br>
<br>
<br>
9. {medium} HID: resurrect the lesstif HID (pcb-rnd supports gtk at the mom=
ent)<br>
<br>
TIA,<br>
<br>
Igor2<br>
</blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div>

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