Mail Archives: djgpp/2000/02/16/12:20:43
On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 11:48:35 GMT, "Andrew Jones"
<luminous-is AT home DOT com> wrote:
>> >And the GPL definition of "free" is definately not what the normal
>> >person thinks of free.
>>
>> So how should I say it? It's free in both senses (speech and beer).
>
>I'm not sure what the GPL definition of free is myself (my brain's a little
>foggy right now). Isn't it something like free for use, not free software?
There are two kinds of free: free speech and free beer. RMS, when he
created the term "free software," was referring to speech. The 1980s
term "freeware," meaning royalty-free redistributable binaries, refers
to beer.
>> >It seems to me that the only successful software ever written using
>> >DJGPP is Quake.
>>
>> Damn successful.
>
>True! However, attempting to base the success of a compiler through one
>product is not a good method of promotion.
>
>Doom, Doom2 (and all commercial Doom derivatives), Death Rally, Descent and
>Descent 2, Tomb Raider, Warcraft, Command and Conquer, Fade to Black, Crusader,
>Shattered Steel, KKND, Mechwarrior 2. There are more. They may not have *all*
>had commercial success, but 3/4 of them were. And then there's operating
>systems (DR-DOS and OS/2 as I said).
Q: How many of those came out before DJGPP2 even existed?
A: Everything before Quake.
>> Just add two lines to your autoexec.bat and reboot. We can't
>> control the fact that many users have the attention span of AOLers.
>
>LOL... true. But some people who want to start programming honestly don't even
>know what AUTOEXEC.BAT is!
If you're using Windows 95 or Windows 98, pull up Start > Run... type
edit c:\autoexec.bat
and press Enter.
>Or what an environment variable is.
A lightbulb goes off in my head: Change the DJGPP version of GCC so
that if it doesn't find a DJGPP environment variable, treat it as
set DJGPP=[executable's directory]/../DJGPP.ENV
>Or that just using GCC will call the C, C++, Objective-C or assembler,
>depending on the extention of the file.
Other programs treat files with different extensions differently:
GIMP and other paint programs, Word and other editors...
>These are problems inherent in most compilers, but DJGPP makes
>it painfully obvious. It is derived from a UNIX tool,
GNU's not UNIX(R).
>and hence is by nature going to be confusing and cryptic.
Stereotyping UNIX-like operating systems?
>> Allegro works on Watcom too last time I checked.
>
>I tried it a while back and it refused to compile. This may have been an older
>version (mid-end 1999), and I haven't tried any recent versions.
Get 3.9.31.
>I just wanted to point a few things out mostly because your
>derisiveness to Watcom bothers me somewhat.
As I said: Fixed. The "selling" attitude has been toned down in my
top ten FAQ.
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