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From: Merlin <merlin__ AT geocities DOT com>
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Subject: Re: allegro == or != programming
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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 00:50:32 GMT
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paxton AT accrington-web DOT co DOT uk wrote:

> Hey! Merlin <merlin__ AT geocities DOT com> wasn't it Mon, 03 Aug 1998
> 22:18:13 GMT that you wrote:
>
> >function, allegro, libc or otherwise... I mean don't you wonder sometimes how they work...
> >when i wonder how they work i go find out.
>
> Where do I stop.. where do we draw the line, either you are suggesting
> we all go out and learn pure code and start programming in binary or
> you have drawn a line... people draw there lines at different points..
> why do you think we should all move to your line ?
>

Stop where ever you like..just go on to something else afterwords... don't just quit becuse you
have finished learning allegro's syntax... but anyway remember i don't care about this... all i
wanted was your opinion not a war.

> >> shortcuts but to varying degrees.. just because you know a little more
> >> than the bloke next door doesnt mean you have to instantly become a
> >> smart-arse telling everyone else to learn,
> >>
> >
> >Yes.. everyone does use shortcuts to varying degrees but I PERSONALLY think this is no excuse
> >to stop learning. I don't care what you learn or what programming language you use. I don't
>
> I could use a game making kit to make a game.... but no!, I wanted to
> learn.. so I got C and allegro.. thus I have actually done what you
> suggest, but because my limits are obviously set to less than yours,
> you think that is wrong to the point of insulting me and any like
> minded people,

But the difference between me and you is that you have stopped at allegro... you do not thing you
need to know more (or so it seems.. I never claimed to know everything)

>
>
> >to learn, I am just stating that i don't like to use allegro becuase it makes me feel like i'm
> >not doing it myself.
>
> I don't use klick n play or any of the other game making kits because
> I wanted to know more, thats the same as you to a different degree
> wouldn't you agree?
>

But now that you know allegro don't you want to know more?

> >Then i asked for other people's OPINION. I did not accuse or call people
> >names, I simply stated my opinion then asked for yours.
>
> I did not go into a newsgroup populated by klic n play users and tell
> everyone I dont like it because of things like laziness and having it
> done for me and handed on a platter and taking the credit for other
> peoples work........But thats what you ahve done re: Allegro in a
> newsgroup you know has many Allegro users...Penny dropped yet? :)

Yes.. I posted _MY_ opinion in a newsgroup with many allegro users so i would get many replies....
This was _MY_ opinion... not a demand, not a request even.  Just an opinion... I am entitile to my
opinion just as you are entitled to your own...I stated mine... I said it made me feel like i was
being lazy and cheating etc... then i asked for your opinion... I did not say anywhere that you
must do this or i would like you to do that... I simply stated my opinion. nothing more nothing
less.

>

> >>  Why do you think everyone in the world should think like you ?,
> >
> >I don't...
>
> Duh! you sure as heck sound like you do.

I just want your _OPINION_... I don't care if it is different from mine.

>
>
> >> Ho and believe me, the people playing my games dont give a flying
> >> monkeys what language i use or how much i know :)
> >
> >I do. When i play a game i often wonder what language it was coded in and how they did some
> >thing's they did do.
>
> I do as well.. but thats probably what most programmers do, However I
> make my games for game players and not for programmers, If I made
> games for programmers then I would never finish a single one

I am a programmer as well as a player...

      Merlin.

> --------------------------------------------
> Tony Greenwood - paxton AT accrington-web DOT co DOT uk
> --------- Computer Games Programmer --------
> Web Pages at http://www.accrington-web.co.uk



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