Message-ID: <35C7ABD2.CE88706A@geocities.com> From: Merlin MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.djgpp Subject: Re: allegro == or != programming References: <000e01bdbe22$b64ff1e0$914e08c3 AT arthur> <35C54165 DOT 6EAA2CAB AT geocities DOT com> <35cf8b8e DOT 6038761 AT news DOT zetnet DOT co DOT uk> <35C6369F DOT 3D9AF50B AT geocities DOT com> <35cab214 DOT 2674135 AT news DOT zetnet DOT co DOT uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 96 Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 00:50:32 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 197-cy-wpg.ilos.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 19:50:32 CDT Organization: MBnet Networking Inc. To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com DJ-Gateway: from newsgroup comp.os.msdos.djgpp Precedence: bulk paxton AT accrington-web DOT co DOT uk wrote: > Hey! Merlin wasn't it Mon, 03 Aug 1998 > 22:18:13 GMT that you wrote: > > >function, allegro, libc or otherwise... I mean don't you wonder sometimes how they work... > >when i wonder how they work i go find out. > > Where do I stop.. where do we draw the line, either you are suggesting > we all go out and learn pure code and start programming in binary or > you have drawn a line... people draw there lines at different points.. > why do you think we should all move to your line ? > Stop where ever you like..just go on to something else afterwords... don't just quit becuse you have finished learning allegro's syntax... but anyway remember i don't care about this... all i wanted was your opinion not a war. > >> shortcuts but to varying degrees.. just because you know a little more > >> than the bloke next door doesnt mean you have to instantly become a > >> smart-arse telling everyone else to learn, > >> > > > >Yes.. everyone does use shortcuts to varying degrees but I PERSONALLY think this is no excuse > >to stop learning. I don't care what you learn or what programming language you use. I don't > > I could use a game making kit to make a game.... but no!, I wanted to > learn.. so I got C and allegro.. thus I have actually done what you > suggest, but because my limits are obviously set to less than yours, > you think that is wrong to the point of insulting me and any like > minded people, But the difference between me and you is that you have stopped at allegro... you do not thing you need to know more (or so it seems.. I never claimed to know everything) > > > >to learn, I am just stating that i don't like to use allegro becuase it makes me feel like i'm > >not doing it myself. > > I don't use klick n play or any of the other game making kits because > I wanted to know more, thats the same as you to a different degree > wouldn't you agree? > But now that you know allegro don't you want to know more? > >Then i asked for other people's OPINION. I did not accuse or call people > >names, I simply stated my opinion then asked for yours. > > I did not go into a newsgroup populated by klic n play users and tell > everyone I dont like it because of things like laziness and having it > done for me and handed on a platter and taking the credit for other > peoples work........But thats what you ahve done re: Allegro in a > newsgroup you know has many Allegro users...Penny dropped yet? :) Yes.. I posted _MY_ opinion in a newsgroup with many allegro users so i would get many replies.... This was _MY_ opinion... not a demand, not a request even. Just an opinion... I am entitile to my opinion just as you are entitled to your own...I stated mine... I said it made me feel like i was being lazy and cheating etc... then i asked for your opinion... I did not say anywhere that you must do this or i would like you to do that... I simply stated my opinion. nothing more nothing less. > > >> Why do you think everyone in the world should think like you ?, > > > >I don't... > > Duh! you sure as heck sound like you do. I just want your _OPINION_... I don't care if it is different from mine. > > > >> Ho and believe me, the people playing my games dont give a flying > >> monkeys what language i use or how much i know :) > > > >I do. When i play a game i often wonder what language it was coded in and how they did some > >thing's they did do. > > I do as well.. but thats probably what most programmers do, However I > make my games for game players and not for programmers, If I made > games for programmers then I would never finish a single one I am a programmer as well as a player... Merlin. > -------------------------------------------- > Tony Greenwood - paxton AT accrington-web DOT co DOT uk > --------- Computer Games Programmer -------- > Web Pages at http://www.accrington-web.co.uk