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On Aug 23, 2015, at 8:57 AM, Markus Hitter (mah AT jump-ing DOT de) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:

> Am 23.08.2015 um 14:26 schrieb myken:
>> On 23/08/15 14:13, John Doty wrote:
>>> Why should we listen to people who don’t understand how a toolkit works?
>> Because they attract new users.
> 
> Also because having a toolkit doesn't mean a user needs to use each tool separately. Mac OS X, Ubuntu, Android are all well received samples of toolkit based OSs where a mere user doesn't have to know about toolkits. Still expert users can take advantage of it as easily as if there were no GUI.

Indeed, but you use *different* tools in OSX depending on what you want. Pages is not LaTeX, and trying to merge them is folly. Let there be integrated tools. Let there be toolkits. Don’t break a toolkit by trying to integrate it.

"There’s a power av vartue in keepin’ things sep’rate"  -Rudyard Kipling, “Captains Courageous”

John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
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