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From:	"Girvin Herr (gherrl AT fastmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-user AT delorie DOT com>
Subject:	[geda-user] PCB: Text disappears when converting selection to element.
Message-ID:	<d478b80e-3c2f-6947-2968-98a9ac512be1@fastmail.com>
Date:	Fri, 15 Feb 2019 16:19:00 -0800
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Greetings,

I am using pcb 4.1.3 on Slackware Linux.

I am trying to modify an existing, but renamed, element. I need to add 
text ("+") to the top silk layer. The text gets added and looks to be on 
the top silk layer, but when done and I choose "Convert selection to 
element", the text disappears, even though it was selected. I confirmed 
that the resulting element does not have the text on the top silk layer 
when reloaded. However, when I look at the element file (below), I see 
that the text statement is there but assigned to the "copper" layer 4, 
not the "top silk" layer. What am I doing wrong or what is the trick to 
get text on the top silk layer?

file:

Element["" "" "C?" "" 200.00mil 200.00mil 790.00mil -30.00mil 0 100 ""]
(
     Pin[-100.00mil 0.0000 65.00mil 30.00mil 71.00mil 35.00mil "" "1" 
"edge2"]
     Pin[1700.00mil 0.0000 65.00mil 30.00mil 71.00mil 35.00mil "" "2" 
"edge2"]
     ElementLine [700.00mil -50.00mil 900.00mil -50.00mil 10.00mil]
     ElementLine [900.00mil -50.00mil 900.00mil 50.00mil 10.00mil]
     ElementLine [900.00mil 50.00mil 700.00mil 50.00mil 10.00mil]
     ElementLine [700.00mil 50.00mil 700.00mil -50.00mil 10.00mil]
     ElementLine [0.0000 0.0000 700.00mil 0.0000 10.00mil]
     ElementLine [900.00mil 0.0000 1600.00mil 0.0000 10.00mil]

     )
Layer(4 "" "copper")
(
     Text[150.00mil 100.00mil 0 172 "+" "clearline"]
)

/file:

Note that when I load the element and check the groups in preferences, 
there is only a "bottom silk" assigned to group 1 and "top silk" 
assigned to group 2. What looks odd is that the "Top side" at the bottom 
is set to Group 1 and the "Bottom side" is set to group 2. Just the 
opposite. Is this correct?

Is there a good document for the element file statement definitions?
Mine is so old it does not list the "Layer" or "Text" statements.

Thanks.
Girvin Herr

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