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> On 28 Jul 2016, at 10:59, gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu wrote:
>=20
> On Thu, 28 Jul 2016, Chris Smith (space DOT dandy AT icloud DOT com =
<mailto:space DOT dandy AT icloud DOT com>) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com =
<mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com>] wrote:
>=20
>>=20
>> What are the dependencies for pcb-rnd on OS X?  I?d be happy to give =
it a go.
>=20
> I am not sure about OS X, but can talk in general.
>=20
> You'll need:
>=20
> - an svn client
>=20
> - the usual set of shell utils (POSIX shell, awk, sed, grep - should =
work with non-GNU, if breaks, please report; this will change long term, =
only a shell will be needed)
>=20
> - a C compielr (not necessarily gcc; e.g. clang should work)
>=20
> - make (in theory it doesn't need to be GNU make; if you are using =
non-GNU and it breaks, that's a bug, please report)
>=20
> - if you want the gtk hid: libgtk and glib
>=20
> - and/or if you want the lesstif hid, the lesstif lib
>=20
> As of today, you don't have to have bison and flex and gettext is =
optional too (pcb-rnd has no working translations atm).
>=20
> Please report if anything breaks or you think something is strange.


Ok, I=E2=80=99ve just tried a basic configuration and I=E2=80=99m =
getting a configure error:

./configure --prefix=3D/usr/local --disable-hid_gtk =
--disable-hid_lesstif --disable-gd --disable-gpmi

[snip output which looks sensible]

Checking for glib... not found: pkg-config --cflags failed.WARNING: =
Since GLIB is not found, disabling the puller...

[snip more output which looks sensible]

Checking for flex... Found.
Checking for bison... Found.
Generating Makefile.conf (0)
Runtime error at Makefile.in 1:1: variable 'libs/sul/glib/cflags' does =
not exist
Generating gts/Makefile (-1)
Runtime error at Makefile.in 170:1: variable =
'/target/libs/sul/glib/cflags' does not exist
Generating pcb/Makefile (-1)
Generating pcb/buildin  (-1)
Generating util/gsch2pcb-rnd/Makefile (-1)
Generating config.auto.h (-1)
Error generating some of the files

Regards,
Chris
=E2=80=94
Chris Smith <space DOT dandy AT icloud DOT com>



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class=3D"">On 28 Jul 2016, at 10:59, <a =
href=3D"mailto:gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu" class=3D"">gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu</a> =
wrote:</div><div class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; =
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font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
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0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: =
inline !important;" class=3D"">On Thu, 28 Jul 2016, Chris Smith =
(</span><a href=3D"mailto:space DOT dandy AT icloud DOT com" style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
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float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">) [via<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><a =
href=3D"mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; =
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class=3D"">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a><span style=3D"font-family: =
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float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">] wrote:</span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
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type=3D"cite" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
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0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">What are the dependencies for pcb-rnd on OS X? &nbsp;I?d be =
happy to give it a go.<br class=3D""></blockquote><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">I am not sure about =
OS X, but can talk in general.</span><br style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
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normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;" class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
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!important;" class=3D"">You'll need:</span><br style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
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normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;" class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline =
!important;" class=3D"">- an svn client</span><br style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;" class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline =
!important;" class=3D"">- the usual set of shell utils (POSIX shell, =
awk, sed, grep - should work with non-GNU, if breaks, please report; =
this will change long term, only a shell will be needed)</span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: =
inline !important;" class=3D"">- a C compielr (not necessarily gcc; e.g. =
clang should work)</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: =
auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">- make (in theory =
it doesn't need to be GNU make; if you are using non-GNU and it breaks, =
that's a bug, please report)</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline =
!important;" class=3D"">- if you want the gtk hid: libgtk and =
glib</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">- and/or if you =
want the lesstif hid, the lesstif lib</span><br style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;" class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline =
!important;" class=3D"">As of today, you don't have to have bison and =
flex and gettext is optional too (pcb-rnd has no working translations =
atm).</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">Please report if =
anything breaks or you think something is strange.</span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""></div></blockquote></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>Ok, I=E2=80=99ve just tried a basic =
configuration and I=E2=80=99m getting a configure error:<div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">./configure =
--prefix=3D/usr/local --disable-hid_gtk --disable-hid_lesstif =
--disable-gd --disable-gpmi</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div=
 class=3D"">[snip output which looks sensible]</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Checking for glib... not found: =
pkg-config --cflags failed.WARNING: Since GLIB is not found, disabling =
the puller...<br class=3D""><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div class=3D"">[snip more =
output which looks sensible]</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">Checking for flex... =
Found.</div><div class=3D"">Checking for bison... Found.</div><div =
class=3D"">Generating Makefile.conf (0)</div><div class=3D"">Runtime =
error at Makefile.in 1:1: variable 'libs/sul/glib/cflags' does not =
exist</div><div class=3D"">Generating gts/Makefile (-1)</div><div =
class=3D"">Runtime error at Makefile.in 170:1: variable =
'/target/libs/sul/glib/cflags' does not exist</div><div =
class=3D"">Generating pcb/Makefile (-1)</div><div class=3D"">Generating =
pcb/buildin &nbsp;(-1)</div><div class=3D"">Generating =
util/gsch2pcb-rnd/Makefile (-1)</div><div class=3D"">Generating =
config.auto.h (-1)</div><div class=3D"">Error generating some of the =
files</div></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Regards,</div><div class=3D"">
Chris<br class=3D"">=E2=80=94<br class=3D"">Chris Smith &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:space DOT dandy AT icloud DOT com" =
class=3D"">space DOT dandy AT icloud DOT com</a>&gt;<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">
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