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On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 7:43 AM,  <gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> first of all: this mail has nothing to do with gschem and does _not_ propose
> anything for mainline pcb either. I state generic "what users would prefer
> in a random software having the same issue" questions.
>
> (Background: I'm working on the "conf rewrite" in pcb-rnd, collecting all
> the configuration/setting/preferences data into a central tree in memory
> that has an uniform API.)
>
> Today I bumped into an old problem that does affect users who want to keep
> .pcb files in VCS: the Cursor line and the Grid line noise.
>
> The core of the problem is that these two lines represent GUI settings. On
> one hand it'd be great to have the last cursor position and grid setting
> saved but it certainly can interfere with VCS usage generating dummy diffs.
>
> With the conf rewrite I have a new perspecitve looking at this old problem
> and I came up with this idea:
>
> - a design file should not contain non-design-related data (e.g. GUI
> settings)

Agreed in the name of all things sane and decent.

> - instead there could be a separate file that could save such settings

Until you mentioned it I had ignored that there wasn't a pcbrc file or
something.

> - the user would place the main design file (e.g. foo.pcb) under VCS but the
> design-preferences file with all gui settings would be an uncommited local
> file (e.g. foo.pcb.pref).

ok but I feel like we should be able to have multiple pcb files use
the same preference file.

> - drawback: the user needs to know about what the two files are for, when
> adding one (or both) to vcs, when sharing/distributing them, during backups,
> etc.

This should not be complicated for them.

> So my question is, as an user, what do you think about this approach? Would
> it bother you if a random CAD program would start to split design files like
> that? Is it worth the hassle (from the user's point of view) or the
> Cursor-Grid-like-noise is too small to deal with 2 files all the time?
>
> TIA,
>
> Igor2



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