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Date:	Thu, 19 May 2016 23:23:36 +0300
From:	"Vladimir Zhbanov (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-user AT delorie DOT com>
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Michael,

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 07:57:32PM +0100, M. J. Everitt (m DOT j DOT everitt AT iee DOT org) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
...
> Gentoo does have ebuilds for geda 1.8.1, 1.8.2 and 1.9.1, which, as you
> state, can easily be modified for 1.9.2+. As it stands the gentoo
> package tree itself doesn't contain an ebuild for guile-2 (although this
> is very much an active work-in-progress), and this blocks the adaptation
> of geda-1.9.1 to geda-1.9.2 (I won't pose the conundrum as to why a
> fundamental underlying library was changed in a sub-minor version!).

It was me who made the decision. 1.9 is an unstable series, and we
supported both guile 1.8 and 2.0 for some time. Due to lack of
developers and no responses on my questions about a new release
I've decided to drop the support of guile-1.8 in 1.9.2. Whilst you
call it sub-minor, it has plenty of API changes, and if/when it
stabilizes, we'll release the next stable version (I hope).

> Ideally, we could also get 1.9.x stabilised at the gEDA 'end' so that it
> can be approved as 'stable' at the gentoo end by the Arch testers also.
> 
> I've not met guix, and certainly not in the context of gentoo, where we
> normally rely on the Portage system, and ebuild tree to install
> 'official' packages. Not to say you can't do all the leg-work manually
> yourself, but this wouldn't be a 'standard' approach. I see guix
> replicates much of the functionality of Portage, so whilst its a
> gateway, it certainly seems silly to re-invent the wheel for this distro
> - the basic leg-work just needs doing.

I've meant the guix package manager, not the distribution with the
same name. Please don't confuse them.

IIUC, the guix package manager can do (much) more than other
package managers I'm aware of can do [1], and I haven't read about
any package manager which claims something similar. And while I've
never used it, I would definitely try it if Debian supported it.

  Vladimir

[1] http://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Features.html#Features

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