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On 19/05/16 19:28, Vladimir Zhbanov (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com) [via
geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 07:16:26PM +0100, M. J. Everitt (m DOT j DOT everitt AT ie=
e.org) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
> ...
>> My challenge, however, is to fix the pathetic lack of guile-2 in Gento=
o,
>> so that the gschem 1.9  series can be supported. Not everybody runs
>> Ubuntu or Debian (yuk) nor checks out all their software continuously
>> from git (shudder). Hopefully I shall be adding pcb-rnd to gentoo's
>> package tree too, to complement pcb mainline.
> Recently I read some use the Guix package manager [1] on Gentoo
> which solves all dependencies for both recent stable Guile
> versions 1.8 and 2.0 [2]. It also contains the recipe for geda-gaf
> 1.8.2, which I hope can be easily modified to support any of 1.9.x
> versions.
>
> Regards,
>   Vladimir
>
> [1] http://www.gnu.org/software/guix/
> [2] http://www.gnu.org/software/guix/packages/
Hi Vlad,

Gentoo does have ebuilds for geda 1.8.1, 1.8.2 and 1.9.1, which, as you
state, can easily be modified for 1.9.2+. As it stands the gentoo
package tree itself doesn't contain an ebuild for guile-2 (although this
is very much an active work-in-progress), and this blocks the adaptation
of geda-1.9.1 to geda-1.9.2 (I won't pose the conundrum as to why a
fundamental underlying library was changed in a sub-minor version!).
Ideally, we could also get 1.9.x stabilised at the gEDA 'end' so that it
can be approved as 'stable' at the gentoo end by the Arch testers also.

I've not met guix, and certainly not in the context of gentoo, where we
normally rely on the Portage system, and ebuild tree to install
'official' packages. Not to say you can't do all the leg-work manually
yourself, but this wouldn't be a 'standard' approach. I see guix
replicates much of the functionality of Portage, so whilst its a
gateway, it certainly seems silly to re-invent the wheel for this distro
- the basic leg-work just needs doing.

With any luck, I'll have sorted out the Gentoo packages by the time Bert
is ready for a new release, and obviously that will be incorporated into
the updates! Watch this space.
Cheers,

Michael.


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