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Subject:	Re: [geda-user] Freerouting?
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Agree.  We should all applaud DJ and Bert great efforts.
I am glad that people like Igor2, the author of pcb-rnd
takes time to share his thoughts, works and plan for PCB/gEDA
future, even if some people might not agree with some of his
views.  By discussing various issues, we (users and developers)
can understand the issues better, and can come up with better
solutions to solve various challenges that are facing gEDA/PCB
today.

Paul Tan

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Britton Kerin
(britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]
<geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 9:33 AM, Dave McGuire (mcguire AT neurotica DOT com)
> [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>> On 05/18/2016 01:09 PM, M. J. Everitt (m DOT j DOT everitt AT iee DOT org) [via
>> geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
>>>>   Hey folks.  What is the current state of Freerouting with gEDA/PCB?
>>>> Are we able to interface to it at all, in any way?
>>>>
>>>>   (We discussed this at length about two years ago, and, predictably,
>>>> the discussion devolved into another argument that had little to do with
>>>> the subject at hand.)
>>>
>>> Can't beat a good bit of bike-shedding ... *eg*
>>
>>   Exactly.  I spent hours googling, and I found that several people had
>> worked on DSN/Specctra interfaces, and, as was also very predictable,
>> they can be found in about six completely different and unrelated places
>> on the net.
>>
>>   This is really quite ridiculous.
>>
>>   I have been a daily gEDA/PCB user for fourteen years, in both personal
>> and professional contexts.  Over that time, the projects have become so
>> incoherent and incohesive (is that even a word?) that even I, having
>> used it every day for nearly a decade and a half, cannot figure out
>> what's going on.  It seems that there is no "one true" gEDA or PCB!
>>
>>   Note well that I'm not sitting here complaining that nobody will step
>> up and do a ton of work to improve something that's free.  It'd just be
>> really nice if people would just stop creating these additional
>> repositories with patches and fixes and plugins and blah blah blah that
>> will (inexplicably!) never get merged into the main package, instead
>> there are half a dozen completely different packages, being worked on by
>> different people with different divergent feature sets, that all claim
>> to be gEDA or PCB.
>>
>>   Is it really impossible for people to work TOGETHER on this project?
>
> This situation really is quite a bit better now.  DJ and Bert make a good
> effort to integrate branches, and the author of the big fork (pcb-rnd)
> makes a reasonable effort to make his stuff usable by main line if anyone
> troubles to pick it up.
>
> Britton

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