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Date:	Tue, 1 Mar 2016 13:06:28 -0900
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Subject:	Re: [geda-user] pcb import schematic crash, parantheses in netname
From:	"Britton Kerin (britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-user AT delorie DOT com>
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On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 2:05 AM, Nicklas Karlsson
(nicklas DOT karlsson17 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]
<geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 16 Feb 2016, John Doty wrote:
>> > gnetlist doesn’t crash when it sees UTF-8, although back ends generally
>> > seem to substitute “?” for UTF-8 characters in output for some reason,
>> > even though the data passed to the back end is proper. Something about
>> > Guile output, I think.
>>
>> Guile tries to convert characters to the encoding of the corresponding
>> output port.  If this isn't set correctly, the characters will appear
>> garbled.  (In particular, when trying to print UTF-8 data to stdout with
>> Guile 2.0.x you have to set the output port encoding explicitly to UTF-8
>> even in an all-UTF-8 locale.  This has been fixed in Guile 2.2.x.)
>
> If it will be fixed then newer version is used there is rather small gain to spend any time on it right now.
>
>> On Tue, 16 Feb 2016, DJ Delorie wrote:
>> > more likely we'll get some random joke emoji (like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ for
>> > example) as a refdes just because the engineer could[*] :-P
>>
>> This wouldn't be rendered correctly because libgedacairo interprets "\_"
>> as an overbar marker.
>
> The overbar marker is indeed very useful.

It sounded useful to me too.  I gave up on it and went to n prefix though,
because it was causing problems somewhere (I forget where exactly).
It's another case of a feature that would be useful if consistently observed
but is of dubious value as things stand.

>> The reported PCB crash is actually a combination of two bugs:
>> * gnet-pcbfwd.scm shouldn't generate output which PCB can't handle
>> * PCB shouldn't segfault even if given malformed commands
>
> Fully agree.
>
>> > Eventually it'll need porting to a new gtk, or you'll be stuck on an old
>> > distro.
>>
>> Porting gschem to a recent GTK version would mean losing multi-key hotkeys
>> and tear-off menus (as discussed in the past).

I know, and actually it seems distros are being smart and not trying to force
people off gtk2.  Pick another dependency if you like.  Guile for example.
The way it works in debian is when the maintainers burn out and get sick
of it it eventually gets bumped from the distro mostly automatically.
They won't carry the baggage of all old versions of everything forever.

Britton

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