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Subject:	Re: [geda-user] Project leadership (design error in the core of gschem)
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On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 12:16 AM, John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com> wrote:
>
> On Dec 31, 2015, at 4:53 PM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 7:34 AM, John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Dec 30, 2015, at 12:17 AM, gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2015, John Doty wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 29, 2015, at 11:22 PM, gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2015, John Doty wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 29, 2015, at 10:29 PM, gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A common netlist/bom format with a canonical form (so equivalent netlists would be identical) would be a useful intermediate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Could work. To me, the current patch format is much cleaner. I already have fully working code both in pcb-rnd and gschem. If you implement an alternative solution that is at least as capable, let me know.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I?m not saying get rid of your patch format. But you took a shortcut generally not available by having pcb make the patch directly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> False. I did make a shortcut, but on a totally different level of abstraction.
>>>>>
>>>>> Only available to the geda-gaf->pcb flow.
>>>>
>>>> Nope, it's available in the pcb->geda-gaf flow. Not due to the format, not due to the shortcut. Only because I did't implement it for anything else.
>>>>
>>>> Please provide your reasoning why anything else couldn't emit a similar format!
>>>
>>> Not directly from a tool whose code you can’t modify. Indirectly through through additional scripts, of course, which is my proposal.
>>>
>>> How would you implement this for Osmond PCB?
>>
>> I have no idea as I have no idea about Osmond. I assume some Osmond
>> user will provide documentation on the Osmond output format that will
>> enable a plugin or translation utility to be created. Simply because
>> Osmond is not supported does not mean we don't implement this. It just
>> means Osmond users won't in the short term be able to use a feature.
>> Their already existing flow will still work and I don't see a problem
>> with that.
>
> I guess I wasn’t clear. There is common infrastructure for creating the patch file that Igor has hard-wired into his pcb. An Osmond flow cannot use this. On the other hand, if that common part was a separate tool using a canonical netlist format, every flow involving a layout program that can export an as-built netlist could use it. All you’d need is a translator from each tool’s export format to the canonical format. Igor has a short cut for pcb, but that short cut is not available to any other flow.

No you were clear. I started writing replies to a bunch of stuff the
other night and just now started re-reading and sending. I hit send on
the wrong one. sorry.

> John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
> http://www.noqsi.com/
> jpd AT noqsi DOT com
>
>



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