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From:	"Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-user AT delorie DOT com>
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On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 5:46 AM,  <gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu> wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2015, John Doty wrote:
>
>>
>> On Dec 29, 2015, at 9:54 PM, gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu wrote:
>>
>>> - gschem doesn't have cosistent concept of its goals. It pretends it
>>> doesn't need to know about nets because it's a dump editor, but it does know
>>> about slotting and has lists of hardwired attribute names in code
>>
>>
>> And some of us think that those are design errors. There are several
>> alternate notions of how slotting should work. If you want slotting in
>> gschem, you should load a suitable script.
>
>
> You are trying to avoid answering the real problematic part, picking on the
> small things.
>
> Any EE I've ever met or worked with talked the same language. The most
> important bricks of the language were compoment and network names. Does
> gschem speak this language?
>
> Compontent names: refdes; it's hardwired all around to make gschem more or
> less understand the language. Still it is not strong enough so that we can
> really idetify (search, find, list) a component by name and make sure we get
> what we need to get.
>
> Network names: gschem has absolutely no idea about networks. Gschem fails to
> model this aspect of the world.
>
> I am all for plugins and scripts (but against restricting the user to one
> specific scripting language). However, there must be a core of the tool,
> which is not a plugin, not an user provided addon. This core should try to
> speak the same language to at least a minimal extent, that the userbase
> does. To me it seems gschem fails on this. It probably could be worked
> around with endless streams of scheme scripts, but it'd be easier to admit
> it and come up with a proper fix in the core.
>

+1 Every EE I know can do some C. Only a small number from MIT know
scheme and in the words of one professor there "We stopped using it
when we realized there was more value in educating the students than
torturing them."

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