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Subject: Re: gEDA and it's future with Scheme & Guile was Re: [geda-user] Project leadership
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From: John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com>
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On Dec 29, 2015, at 8:24 PM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via =
geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 10:20 PM, John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com> wrote:
>>=20
>> On Dec 29, 2015, at 2:32 PM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via =
geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> You don=92t have to make unwelcome changes to extend the toolkit. =
That=92s an advantage of a toolkit. Use it.
>>>=20
>>> Unwelcome wagon?
>>=20
>> New construction is welcome. Dynamiting a foundation to make an =
opening because you don=92t want to use the door is not.
>=20
> Why do you always assume anyone else's additions are going to be the
> equivalent to destroying everything that already exists?

Because I=92ve been burned.

> Why do you
> assume that if they are so disastrous no one will simply yank them
> from the repo?

Because problems have made it to release and corrupted schematics or =
netlists before anybody noticed. Yanking things from the repo does not =
recall them from the field.

> Why do you assume people will just push code that
> breaks stuff?

I assume that they have the best of intentions. I am concerned that many =
who want change seem to have a poor understanding of what already =
exists. Certainly if you haven=92t mastered Scheme, you have no business =
changing the existing geda-gaf core. But new tools are welcome.

>=20
> I respect your opinions on the architecture of geda but we both see
> drawbacks to it as it is now. You said yourself there are things that
> are clunky. Why do you assume those things will not be fixed?

I hope they=92ll be fixed by the next generation of tools, not by doing =
drastic things to the working tools we have now.

John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
http://www.noqsi.com/
jpd AT noqsi DOT com



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