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Subject: Re: gEDA and it's future with Scheme & Guile was Re: [geda-user] Project leadership
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On Dec 29, 2015, at 12:43 PM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via =
geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Vladimir Zhbanov (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com)
> [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 01:23:37PM -0500, Evan Foss =
(evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
>> ...
>>>> appreciate Edward's work though I feel we see geda-gaf future
>>>> differently. I, for one, wish to unify geda core functions and
>>>> rewrite them in Scheme in order to get rid of our C-Scheme-C
>>>> structure, throw out duplicated functionality, simplify internal
>>>> structure, and make functions less opaque for both C and Scheme
>>>> levels. (BTW, gschem has REPL now, are you aware of it? ;))
>>>=20
>>> A while back we debated this. I though we agreed on de-emphasising
>>> scheme's use? (You and peter b were the only too proponents for it) =
I
>>=20
>> Who? You and Kai-Martin ;) ?
>=20
> There were a lot of other people who felt that scheme was something we
> need to de-emphasis in use. The single largest group of scheme
> developers I know of was MIT students and they don't teach it any
> more.
>=20
> gEDA is struggling for a lack of development

Pcb is struggling from the lack of a foundation. I think geda-gaf would =
be much more popular if there was a good free/open layout program to =
export to. If KiCAD ever documents their netlist format=85

> and scheme turns off a
> lot of wood be contributors. We need people who....
> 1. Don't fight so much.
> 2. Know about EDA software.
> 3. Have time to work on the project.
> 4. Know all the languages involved in the project.
>=20
> That is a lot to ask.
>=20
> Kai-Martin and I were not the only two.
>=20
>> I never said scheme is over-emphasised in geda-gaf. AFAIR, I always
>> stated the opposite: Scheme is 'under-emphasized' as a scripting
>> language in geda.
>=20
> I think something got missed in translation. I was saying you and
> peter were the only two who wanted to keep advancing scheme's use in
> geda.
>=20
>>> could be miss interpreting your plan here but it sounds like you are
>>> going to replace more of the C with Scheme.
>>=20
>> Yeah, that's my plan :)

Good plan.

>=20
> Sorry but I oppose this plan and I think I can gather a lot of =
support.

Go over to the Xorn camp, then. That=92s where the non-Scheme action is. =
It might very well be the future.

John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
http://www.noqsi.com/
jpd AT noqsi DOT com



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