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Date:	Tue, 29 Dec 2015 14:43:17 -0500
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Subject:	gEDA and it's future with Scheme & Guile was Re: [geda-user] Project leadership
From:	"Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-user AT delorie DOT com>
To:	gEDA users mailing list <geda-user AT delorie DOT com>
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On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Vladimir Zhbanov (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com)
[via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 01:23:37PM -0500, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
> ...
>> > appreciate Edward's work though I feel we see geda-gaf future
>> > differently. I, for one, wish to unify geda core functions and
>> > rewrite them in Scheme in order to get rid of our C-Scheme-C
>> > structure, throw out duplicated functionality, simplify internal
>> > structure, and make functions less opaque for both C and Scheme
>> > levels. (BTW, gschem has REPL now, are you aware of it? ;))
>>
>> A while back we debated this. I though we agreed on de-emphasising
>> scheme's use? (You and peter b were the only too proponents for it) I
>
> Who? You and Kai-Martin ;) ?

There were a lot of other people who felt that scheme was something we
need to de-emphasis in use. The single largest group of scheme
developers I know of was MIT students and they don't teach it any
more.

gEDA is struggling for a lack of development and scheme turns off a
lot of wood be contributors. We need people who....
1. Don't fight so much.
2. Know about EDA software.
3. Have time to work on the project.
4. Know all the languages involved in the project.

That is a lot to ask.

Kai-Martin and I were not the only two.

> I never said scheme is over-emphasised in geda-gaf. AFAIR, I always
> stated the opposite: Scheme is 'under-emphasized' as a scripting
> language in geda.

I think something got missed in translation. I was saying you and
peter were the only two who wanted to keep advancing scheme's use in
geda.

>> could be miss interpreting your plan here but it sounds like you are
>> going to replace more of the C with Scheme.
>
> Yeah, that's my plan :)

Sorry but I oppose this plan and I think I can gather a lot of support.

>>
>> I was not aware of REPL but that is handy.
>
> Don't think I would stop my work on geda just now ;) I still hope
> we'll make it better some day.
>
> BTW, I've found emacs has a plugin named geiser which is very
> powerful and would be convenient for many scheme users. I've managed
> to set up geda for using it the same way as in guile though I'm still
> in doubt guile users will use it.
>
> Cheers,
>   Vladimir



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