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On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 7:39 PM, <gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu> wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, 21 Dec 2015, DJ Delorie wrote:
>
>
>> Despite of all the huge amount of work the have invested, unless they make
>>> the work really publicly available, I'd prefer not building on it.
>>>
>>
>> I.e. you want someone to either steal the work for you, or do a great
>> deal of work on your behalf without any compensation?
>>
>
> Nope. As far as I understood, we are considering the very first step of a
> roadmap. The first step is about how to pick a file format or data
> structure. Peter proposed a specific standard and listed a lot of pros.
>
> My point is only this: not having the standard freely available is a con
> that we should not ignore.


Seconded.  STEP its a huge pain in the behind because no free software
supports it.  I had to have a copy of solid works on windows for nothing
but export to STEP, so I could have parts designed with openSCAD actually
manufactured.  That was a while ago and now 3D printing has forced
manufacturers to support STL.  With that happening I doubt very much that
FOSS support for STEP has improved much.  In any case *something* is
definitely stopping STEP adoption in FOSS and it's a good bet its the
relative unavailability of the standard.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 7:39 PM,  <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu" target=3D"_blank">gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu</a>&gt;</span=
> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D""><br>
<br>
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015, DJ Delorie wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Despite of all the huge amount of work the have invested, unless they make<=
br>
the work really publicly available, I&#39;d prefer not building on it.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
I.e. you want someone to either steal the work for you, or do a great<br>
deal of work on your behalf without any compensation?<br>
</blockquote>
<br></span>
Nope. As far as I understood, we are considering the very first step of a r=
oadmap. The first step is about how to pick a file format or data structure=
. Peter proposed a specific standard and listed a lot of pros.<br>
<br>
My point is only this: not having the standard freely available is a con th=
at we should not ignore.</blockquote><div><br></div><div style=3D"">Seconde=
d.=C2=A0 STEP its a huge pain in the behind because no free software suppor=
ts it.=C2=A0 I had to have a copy of solid works on windows for nothing but=
 export to STEP, so I could have parts designed with openSCAD actually manu=
factured.=C2=A0 That was a while ago and now 3D printing has forced manufac=
turers to support STL.=C2=A0 With that happening I doubt very much that FOS=
S support for STEP has improved much.=C2=A0 In any case *something* is defi=
nitely stopping STEP adoption in FOSS and it&#39;s a good bet its the relat=
ive unavailability of the standard.</div><div><br></div></div></div></div>

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