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Subject: Re: [geda-user] Project leadership
From: "Peter Clifton (petercjclifton AT googlemail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-user AT delorie DOT com>
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No Igor, it wasn't you I was thinking of...

I didn't want to call anyone out by name, but if you recall - there
was an individual who forked gEDA, and ported to a text-mode schematic
entry system... (no problem with that - especially given it worked for
him). I can't recall whether it was genuinely a PDP-10 he was running,
but I do recall being impressed by the level of retro-computing at the
time.

I think he called the fork uEDA? I regret not having tried it, as the
concept actually had a lot of charm for certain types of circuit
(ironically - probably more so with more modern designs that have more
plumbing, and less analogue electronics!).


I am sorry you had to fork to keep what you wanted within PCB..
(despite the OpenGL bits, it all should have kept working when
configured with --disable-gl, I have tried hard to avoid forcing
OpenGL onto everyone - as the driver support has only recently got to
be pretty ubiquitous). We lost out on your development talent when you
forked, which is a shame - since you are one of the talented ones.

FWIW, My "branch" with the later OpenGl stuff, and 3D support is way
more like a fork now, than I'd ever intended it to become. The
intention is to merge it, but the blocking problems regarding
data-structure and file-format additions have still not been resolved,
and my free time has (in complete generality) been reduced a lot.


Peter


On 22 December 2015 at 17:15,  <gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu> wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2015, Peter Clifton (petercjclifton AT googlemail DOT com) [via
> geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
>
> <snip>
>>
>> We CANNOT please everyone, not the "we want 3D etc..", "new features",
>> "better integration".. camp (which I'm in), and simultaneously the
>> "Hmm - this gEDA stuff is nice, but you're using one of those
>> new-fangled X11 GUI things - that doesn't run on my PDP-10, can you
>> please port it to a VT100 terminal?" types. (We've had at least one of
>> those).
>
>
> I think the VT100 terminal reference was probably intended for me (I was the
> one who didn't like opengl in PCB because it got unusably slow on all my
> computers).
>
> I have good news: you don't need to worry about me. As you suggested later
> in your mail, I did realize life was short and did fork PCB long ago. So
> whoever the project leader would be, he/she wouldn't need to worry about
> support for "old hardware", or sw render in PCB.
>
> (Btw, I fully agree that one of the things that could make the project
> better would be a leader backed up by majority of the community, making
> crucial decisions about directions.)
>

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