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Subject: Re: [geda-user] XML file format (what could be expected)
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On Dec 20, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Britton Kerin (britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com) =
[via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:

> That said if there was an existing successful part standard that used =
XML that would be reason enough to use it.  But I think I've heard J =
Doty say in the past that that standard (which I think was being =
discussed earlier in this thread) was effectively dead=85

I don=92t like XML much, but it=92s hardly dead. I believe you=92re =
thinking of EDIF. It=92s LISP S-expressions, kind of XML-like. Not =
terribly convenient to read outside of LISP, but its real problem has =
always been that it simply encapsulates data whose semantics represent =
those of the proprietary package writing it. So, it never achieved its =
goal of interoperability between packages.

The great thing about the geda-gaf format is that it=92s both flexible =
and trivial to read in almost any programming language. It does not =
require any sort of specialized library.

John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
http://www.noqsi.com/
jpd AT noqsi DOT com



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said if there was an existing successful part standard that used XML =
that would be reason enough to use it.&nbsp; But I think I've heard J =
Doty say in the past that that standard (which I think was being =
discussed earlier in this thread) was effectively =
dead=85</div></blockquote><div><br></div>I don=92t like XML much, but =
it=92s hardly dead. I believe you=92re thinking of EDIF. It=92s LISP =
S-expressions, kind of XML-like. Not terribly convenient to read outside =
of LISP, but its real problem has always been that it simply =
encapsulates data whose semantics represent those of the proprietary =
package writing it. So, it never achieved its goal of interoperability =
between packages.</div><div><br></div><div>The great thing about the =
geda-gaf format is that it=92s both flexible and trivial to read in =
almost any programming language. It does not require any sort of =
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