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Subject:	Re: [geda-user] Next for me in pcb: tooltips
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Personally, I rarely find informative (read: big) tooltips to be annoying.
It is a small price to pay for the usability improvements they create.

As for the via feature: Simply mentioning the fact that "changing layers
with the number keys and left-clicking inserts a via", in the line tool's
description would be a big improvement.



On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Britton Kerin (britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com)
[via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:

>
> The next thing I'd like to work on is adding a lot of tooltips and
> expanding
> some of them.  I'm hoping this will be fairly quick and easy.
>
> Why:
>
>   * There are features that users don't find because the menu names aren't
>     quite descriptive enough (e.g. Lock/Only/Hide Names would have been
> useful
>     to me).
>
>   * There are features that are hard to use even when their purpose is
> obvious,
>     because complex actions are required after the tool in question is
>     selected (e.g. maybe I'll learn how to draw polygons along the way :)
>
>   * It will help me in becoming aware of as many PCB features as possible
>
>
> How:
>
>   * Add entries to (g)pcb-menu.res.in, sort out why the few tips already
> there
>     don't show up for me.
>
>   * Create the usual devel branch, hopefully others can help fill in
> tooltips
>     for features they are most familiar with
>
>
> Questions:
>
>   * Some of the tooltips might need to get slightly bigger to be useful, so
>     might get annoying.  So it might be nice if their was an obvious way to
>     turn them off.  I guess it would be an entry in Preferences->general.
>     Whether it's worth it would depend on how annoying people find them.
>
>   * Is there any way to describe things like the
>     switch-layers-while-drawing-line-to-magically-add-a-via trick that
> people
>     will actually read?  It took me a long time to find out about it and
> others
>     have had the same trouble
>
>
> Britton
>



-- 
Jason White

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Personally, I rarely find informative (read: big) too=
ltips to be annoying. It is a small price to pay for the usability improvem=
ents they create.<br><br></div>As for the via feature: Simply mentioning th=
e fact that &quot;changing layers with the number keys and left-clicking in=
serts a via&quot;, in the line tool&#39;s description would be a big improv=
ement.<br><div><br><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Britton Kerin (<a href=
=3D"mailto:britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com">britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>] <span dir=3D=
"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-u=
ser AT delorie DOT com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><div><br></div><div><div>The next thing I&#39;d like to work =
on is adding a lot of tooltips and expanding</div><div>some of them.=C2=A0 =
I&#39;m hoping this will be fairly quick and easy.</div><div><br></div><div=
>Why:</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 * There are features that users don&#=
39;t find because the menu names aren&#39;t</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 quite d=
escriptive enough (e.g. Lock/Only/Hide Names would have been useful</div><d=
iv>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 to me).</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 * There are featur=
es that are hard to use even when their purpose is obvious,</div><div>=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 because complex actions are required after the tool in question =
is</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 selected (e.g. maybe I&#39;ll learn how to draw =
polygons along the way :)</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 * It will help me=
 in becoming aware of as many PCB features as possible</div><div><br></div>=
<div><br></div><div>How:</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 * Add entries to (=
g)<a href=3D"http://pcb-menu.res.in" target=3D"_blank">pcb-menu.res.in</a>,=
 sort out why the few tips already there</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 don&#39;t =
show up for me.</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 * Create the usual devel br=
anch, hopefully others can help fill in tooltips</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 fo=
r features they are most familiar with</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><=
div>Questions:</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 * Some of the tooltips might=
 need to get slightly bigger to be useful, so</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 might=
 get annoying.=C2=A0 So it might be nice if their was an obvious way to</di=
v><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 turn them off.=C2=A0 I guess it would be an entry in P=
references-&gt;general.</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Whether it&#39;s worth it w=
ould depend on how annoying people find them.</div><div><div><br></div><div=
>=C2=A0 * Is there any way to describe things like the</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 switch-layers-while-drawing-line-to-magically-add-a-via trick that peop=
le</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 will actually read?=C2=A0 It took me a long time=
 to find out about it and others</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 have had the same =
trouble</div></div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><div><br>=
</div><div><br></div><div>Britton</div></font></span></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div class=3D"gmail_sig=
nature">Jason White</div>
</div>

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