www.delorie.com/archives/browse.cgi   search  
Mail Archives: geda-user/2015/10/06/14:07:21

X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2015 14:06:55 -0400
Message-Id: <201510061806.t96I6tUG026305@envy.delorie.com>
From: DJ Delorie <dj AT delorie DOT com>
To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com
In-reply-to:
<CAM2RGhRZoQSJ-kUQfBTngGktreLbrM6=gbr=-+cUO4hx=2RavA AT mail DOT gmail DOT com>
(geda-user AT delorie DOT com)
Subject: Re: [geda-user] GTK3, Glade interface designer (router, auto?)
References: <20151003210701 DOT de392b925f54dadb0a5fedd8 AT gmail DOT com>
<1443903758 DOT 1873 DOT 13 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de>
<56104A0A DOT 9020507 AT xs4all DOT nl>
<1443909591 DOT 1873 DOT 18 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de>
<CAC4O8c_g7e562Gaotrbi6gLfjP6cJU1ys=MtEkDE7bSh4F9dfg AT mail DOT gmail DOT com>
<1443975731 DOT 671 DOT 52 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de>
<20151004191717 DOT bf8223417541a9306bfbd9ea AT gmail DOT com>
<CAC4O8c9Bi5HJfcW6wUgm_+4O2gs4vDdBMbS2hF_0dCqnBuJahQ AT mail DOT gmail DOT com>
<1443997480 DOT 2068 DOT 32 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de>
<CAC4O8c-bnGky=Nab59-pOTJkB8Q9Tc5t5hqE+dnEF-777hUjMg AT mail DOT gmail DOT com>
<1444070851 DOT 1014 DOT 20 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de>
<muv4ua$hat$1 AT ger DOT gmane DOT org>
<alpine DOT DEB DOT 2 DOT 00 DOT 1510060356440 DOT 7137 AT igor2priv>
<56133047 DOT 7030402 AT neurotica DOT com>
<alpine DOT DEB DOT 2 DOT 00 DOT 1510060433080 DOT 7137 AT igor2priv>
<56133CC4 DOT 7000306 AT neurotica DOT com>
<56137585 DOT 2030004 AT jump-ing DOT de> <CAM2RGhRZoQSJ-kUQfBTngGktreLbrM6=gbr=-+cUO4hx=2RavA AT mail DOT gmail DOT com>
Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com

> > Recent activity fixed some 70 bugs in pcb, which brought several new
> > features with it, at least one person (Bert) moved his efforts back into
> > mainline and up to date packages for Ubuntu were built. Worked fine
> > until one of the traditional admins stopped this and everybody seeked
> > cover instead of stepping in for continueing these advances. Now we're
> > back (almost) on square one.
> 
> Was this stop to make a release or for other reasons?

Here's my side, as I'm the "traditional admin" he's talking about.

During the code sprint (which I missed, as I was away on vacation),
Markus convinced a lot of developers to write a lot of code and/or fix
a lot of bugs in pcb and/or gaf.  This was great, and I thank him, and
all would have been fine...

except for one thing...

Instead of using the existing bug trackers, he created a new private[*]
bug-tracker/PPA that implies that it's the official gEDA project page,
and had all the work done in that tracker instead of the official
ones.

[*] I say "private" because it's owned by him, and not by the geda
    admin group.

He claimed it was done in the name of openness, but neglected to
discuss it with any of the other admins, and so far has neither
explained why he did it (i.e. why something new was required instead
of using the existing trackers) nor turned ownership of it over to the
geda admin group (i.e. only he can control it, no other admin can).

The situation now is that there are a lot of bugs in his private
tracker that are in the wrong state (most pcb ones are "fix released"
despite there being no pcb releases with them) that are also in the
official trackers in the wrong state (usually "new" despite being
committed).

So I come back from vacation to a list full of accusations of
politicing and hostile takovers, and people asking me if I know
anything about this.  I don't.  I want an explanation as much as
anyone, and I'm rather upset that this was done (apparently) behind my
back and the backs of the other admins.

Did I stop anything?  No, I didn't.  Markus is free to continue
encouraging people to write code and commit patches, and I hope he
does.  I've asked him to explain his actions and cooperate with the
other admins, but that doesn't stop him from asking people to fix
bugs, the people just need to update the official trackers to the
right states so we know what goes into each release.

- Raw text -


  webmaster     delorie software   privacy  
  Copyright © 2019   by DJ Delorie     Updated Jul 2019