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From:	"Dave McGuire (mcguire AT neurotica DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-user AT delorie DOT com>
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Date:	Mon, 5 Oct 2015 23:40:24 -0400
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On 10/05/2015 11:28 PM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via
geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
>>> Considering these, the best we can do is to ask the list as I did and
>>> then believe the results, whatever they are. What you do, telling us
>>> what the user base don't care about, is mere speculation - you don't
>>> have more access to the real opinion of the actual user base than any of
>>> us. You can share your own opinion and assume the user base has the same
>>> opinion. This is not better than a poll in any way.
>>
>>   Well, considering the fact that I use gEDA and PCB nearly every day,
>> *I* am the user base.  And to watch the traffic around here, I'm the
>> only guy busy actually USING this stuff!
> 
> Ahem... look at the links in my signature. I use gEDA every day for work.

  Excellent.  [tips hat to you]

>>   This project has gyrated into inaction, and this recent ****storm of
>> traffic hasn't improved anything.  There have been childish turf wars,
>> YET MORE forks, whining babies who can't seem to wrap their little
>> brains around what has to be one of the simplest programming languages
>> ever developed, and whining grownups who insist that nothing should ever
>> change, for any reason, until the end of time.  And yet more
>> inexplicable blather about Windows support!
> 
> And your vitriol will help how?

  Hopefully it will wake people up and make them realize that they're
doing silly things.

>>   SO yes, I'll speculate, I'll be a user, and I'll give you feedback AS
>> a user.  But you've just proven that you're not interested in that
>> feedback, surprisingly enough.  So I guess I'll just sit back and watch
>> as people argue and create forks.
> 
> The people who argue are doing exactly as you are right now. The
> people who fork are just fed up with arguing and doing what they think
> is needed. When I ask myself which of those groups is doing the
> positive thing for the project the answer is the people forking
> because they are at least writing code.

  I could sit here all day long and write new code to calculate pi to a
gazillion digits.  At least I'm writing code, right?  But it doesn't
help gEDA/PCB in any way.

  Just like all those forks.

               -Dave

-- 
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA

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