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On 10/05/2015 11:21 PM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via
geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
>>> The forks could lead to productivity if someone choose to "anti fork"
>>> them back to the mainline?
>>
>>   I agree, and I think that would be great.
> 
> Ok then would you please not label the people who work in their own
> forks as "dweeb's" because
> 1. I think as an expression it went out of date before I was born.

  "I'm bringin' it back, man!" ;)

> 2. It is way to hostile as is the all caps

  The hostility was intentional.

> 3. If we want people to contribute directly to the mainline belittling
> them for working on their own is not going to help.

  But they're not working toward the project, they're working on pet
ports that nobody else will ever see.  How is that helpful to anyone,
least of all gEDA/PCB users?

> I get that you are frustrated but remember we are not entitled to
> dictate how other people spend their time.

  Of course not, and I would never suggest otherwise.  I would simply
like to point out that a bunch of brouhaha comprising
multi-hundred-message threads like those that have exploded onto this
list in the past several weeks are accomplishing little other than
proving that there can be no consensus here.

  Personally I treat this a bit like the existence of "goto" in C: It is
never, ever intended to actually be used in code.  It is a "sign post".
 If you feel the need to use it, it indicates that you need to step back
and refactor the code you're working on.  Similarly, if a small number
of people cannot agree on what path this software should take, obsessing
over minor details like what scripting language is used, then people
need to step back and look at what they're trying to accomplish.

  This may result in meaningful forward progress, it may result in total
abandonment of the project, or somewhere in between.  But at least we
won't be gyrating into inaction (other than wasted effort like YET MORE
FORKS!) like has been happening for the past several weeks.

  So yes, I'm frustrated.  I'm not mad at YOU, of course.  You seem to
be a part of the solution, rather than a part of the problem.

                -Dave

-- 
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA

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