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On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 3:15 AM, Dave McGuire (mcguire AT neurotica DOT com)
[via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
> On 10/05/2015 10:46 PM, gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu wrote:

<snip>

>>
>> Considering these, the best we can do is to ask the list as I did and
>> then believe the results, whatever they are. What you do, telling us
>> what the user base don't care about, is mere speculation - you don't
>> have more access to the real opinion of the actual user base than any of
>> us. You can share your own opinion and assume the user base has the same
>> opinion. This is not better than a poll in any way.
>
>   Well, considering the fact that I use gEDA and PCB nearly every day,
> *I* am the user base.  And to watch the traffic around here, I'm the
> only guy busy actually USING this stuff!

Ahem... look at the links in my signature. I use gEDA every day for work.

>   This project has gyrated into inaction, and this recent ****storm of
> traffic hasn't improved anything.  There have been childish turf wars,
> YET MORE forks, whining babies who can't seem to wrap their little
> brains around what has to be one of the simplest programming languages
> ever developed, and whining grownups who insist that nothing should ever
> change, for any reason, until the end of time.  And yet more
> inexplicable blather about Windows support!

And your vitriol will help how?

>   SO yes, I'll speculate, I'll be a user, and I'll give you feedback AS
> a user.  But you've just proven that you're not interested in that
> feedback, surprisingly enough.  So I guess I'll just sit back and watch
> as people argue and create forks.

The people who argue are doing exactly as you are right now. The
people who fork are just fed up with arguing and doing what they think
is needed. When I ask myself which of those groups is doing the
positive thing for the project the answer is the people forking
because they are at least writing code.

>                  -Dave
>
> --
> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
> New Kensington, PA
>



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