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On Tue, 6 Oct 2015, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:

> Stefan Salewski wrote:
>
>> The real hard part is, that people really do not like autorouters
>> generally,
>
> I don't like auto routers which fail on my boards ;-)
> My biggest concern with what the toporouter could demonstrably do is that
> it is/was a game of all or nothing. You could not tell the router to
> restrict itself to some routes picked by me. And more troublesome, it was
> not able to play nice with tracks and vias already put in place by me.
> Both are hard deal breakers for me.
>
>
>> and most really do not like curved traces.
>> Anthony already wrote that most people told him that.
>
> Well, I remember quite some "awsome!" shouts on the list every time the
> toporouter produced some new results.
>
> We did not do a poll on whether people like or dislike topo router style
> traces back then. And Igors2 question was in no way a proper poll on
> peoples priorities for the direction of future development, either.

I obviously disagree here. I think my poll was proper for pcb-rnd. I'm 
really sorry if it didn't bring the result you wanted (but note: you 
didn't even vote).

We had step 1 and 2 for many years on the mailing list. I did step3 for a 
selected set of features (so that things I wouldn't have the bandwidth to 
do wouldn't get voted on - this why push & shove did not show up). I did 
implement the top 3 items within 1 month after the poll.

I recommend the same process to happen for pcb and gschem. If there's 
literally noone who has the time and will to sit down and code push & 
shove, it just won't happen, no matter how formally you vote. On the other 
hand if you ignore what the user base wants, you end up with dead ends 
like guile/scheme in gschem.

Regards,

Igor2

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