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	Wed, 16 Sep 2015 13:29:52 -0700 (PDT)
Date:	Wed, 16 Sep 2015 23:29:50 +0300
From:	"Vladimir Zhbanov (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-user AT delorie DOT com>
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Hi, Markus.

On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 03:42:16AM +0200, Markus Hitter (mah AT jump-ing DOT de) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
> Am 16.09.2015 um 02:05 schrieb Vladimir Zhbanov:
> > The fact that you try to not notice their work doesn't
> > mean they're not working.
> 
> Work is countable, at least approximately:
> 
> http://git.geda-project.org/pcb/log/?ofs=120
> 
> Contributions of a whole year almost fit on a single page. One doesn't
> have to try, there simply _is_ not much.

You forget the work done in private repos such as, e.g.
http://repo.or.cz/w/geda-pcb/pcjc2.git
and that not all private work has been published, and that there is
other activity, e.g. FOSDEM talks.
> 
> The same here:
> 
> http://git.geda-project.org/gerbv/log/
> 
> and even worse here:
> 
> http://git.geda-project.org/orange/log/
> and here
> http://git.geda-project.org/xgsch2pcb/log/
> and here
> http://git.geda-project.org/wwwhtdocs/log/
> and here
> http://git.geda-project.org/gerbvhtdocs/log/

I don't know what to change in the *htdocs now. If you would want, you
could do this or file a bug report. As to other projects, let's they be.
If they're not so popular that nobody wants to work on them, what can I
do? There are other projects with similar issues. I would name some of
them just a 'proof of concept' (if I understand right what I've said :)).
> 
> 
> Nevertheless you straight out refuse no less than five people to
> participate and/or contribute. Instead of an "sorry, should have done
Nope. Everyone can contribute by filing bug reports, working on the
existing ones, sending patches and so on. That's the right way, I think.

> that earlier" there's an extensive search for excuses. That's exactly
> what people fear and what has led to the situation shown above. If 6
> almost-halted projects of 7 total don't prove that the membership
> strategy doesn't work I can't imagine what else would.
I see only 6 projects on git.geda-project.org (excluding *htdocs, see
above). Three of them are popular and are developed. Three others would
probably have some more care. TBH, I never used any of them.

Cheers,
  Vladimir

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