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On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 03:26:20PM -0400, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
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> 2. Not everyone who should be is on the developers list is because
> some folks wanted to play gate keeper. This killed off trolling and
Please tell me privately whom you want to see on the developer list.
Perhaps I could change something.

> flame wars but it killed off all other discourse for some reason.
> 3. There is already a serious split in motivations between the
> developers and the users. The developers might not like hearing the
> roar of the crowd but the users input needs to be in *some* of this
> discussion.
I could not say about other developers, but my feel is I'd now more
appreciate one patch rather than hundreds of "great ideas of how to
develop further" in the list. Some of ideas are great, however they're
lost in the flood we have on the list. Launchpad is more convenient to
have all productive thoughts more ordered.

> 4. Yes after an objective is set it should be migrated over to the
> developers list but I have avoided this because I think a lot of
> people there want to be left alone.
See the previous comment. I think the list should coordinate the *real*
development, not only collect "great ideas". If nobody wants to write
real code, nothings moves on.

Cheers,
  Vladimir

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