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From: Kai-Martin Knaak <kmk AT familieknaak DOT de>
Subject: Re: PLEASE STOP !!! - Re: [geda-user] Apollon
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 04:53:31 +0200
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Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via 
geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 2:10 AM, Vaclav Peroutka
> (vaclavpe AT seznam DOT cz)
> [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]
> [<geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
> <snip>
> 
>>
>> How does it correspond to geda users ? I would understand that this
>> kind of info is needed for developers. But from user's point of
>> view ? Users want to download software and just use it.

I can only speak for myself. But for me, this is simply not true. If I 
were this kind of guy, I'd have switched to altium long time ago.


>> Users want
>> to notice bugfixes. Users want to see new features to increase
>> their productivity.

Devs need to foster offspring. Like any CAD suite, EDA has generally 
no shortage of room for improvement. The more coders the better. And 
of course offspring is needed to carry the torch when the current 
generation of devs retires.


> 1. No one talks on the developers email list. (I actually forgot it
> existed and I am on it because there is almost zero traffic.)
> 2. Not everyone who should be is on the developers list is because
> some folks wanted to play gate keeper. This killed off trolling and
> flame wars but it killed off all other discourse for some reason.
> 3. There is already a serious split in motivations between the
> developers and the users. The developers might not like hearing the
> roar of the crowd but the users input needs to be in *some* of this
> discussion.
> 4. Yes after an objective is set it should be migrated over to the
> developers list but I have avoided this because I think a lot of
> people there want to be left alone.
> 
5. moving topics out of reach puts users off.
You loose early adopters and the chance to receive grateful cheers

---<)kaimartin(>---

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