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On Fri, 4 Sep 2015, John Doty wrote:

>
> On Sep 4, 2015, at 5:02 AM, Markus Hitter (mah AT jump-ing DOT de) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>
>> I think the secret is to make the GUI-only workflow for the usual
>> schematics -> pcb -> Gerbers task complete. With orange and/or xgsch2pcb
>> we're almost there, so let's do the final touches. Tutorials should be
>> replaced with ones using GUI tools only. 90% of potential newbies don't
>> even try when they see a tutorial which asks to type commands. Having
>> the GUI workflow, the name of the underlying tool matters a lot less.
>
> This makes no sense to me. The users you?re targeting are not what gEDA is architected to serve. Why would they want gEDA over kiCAD? Shouldn?t we be promoting our strengths? Gnetlist is the unique, powerful, core of gEDA. Why hide it away?

I somewhat agree with John about not hiding the non-GUI flows. I still 
remember when I started with electronics many years ago. I did look at 
different packages, and there were three things that got me settled with 
geda and pcb:

- it was not integrated, but a set of specialized tools

- it let me do the glue between the tools (I wanted to use make)

- pcb file format looked like text editor friendly.

So I'd relax that idea about advertising the GUI only. I'd probably 
advertise the GUI in the first, longer paragraphs and keep a shorter 
paragraph at the end explaining how well non-GUI ways are supported.

Regards,

Igor2

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