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Date:	Fri, 04 Sep 2015 09:11:39 -0500
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Subject:	Re: [geda-user] Interesting blog post from a commercial EDA vendor
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On 09/03/2015 11:00 PM, gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu wrote:
> In the age of thousand page datasheets, non-machine-readable format is a bug that needs to be fixed. On the other hand I'm highly
> sceptic about vendors being cooperative on this.

You may be onto something about chip companies.  They seem to foster lock-in.  They seem to like big EDA vendors, or at
least don't often see how they should spend effort going around them.  I've seen in house chip devel tools abandoned
for a trendy new bigEDA tool.  Teh big EDA selling point seems to be:  don't respect your engineer employees, try to automate
them out of existence, and we'll be your engineering source...

On 09/04/2015 12:08 AM, Ouabache Designworks (z3qmtr45 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:> Zak does bring up an 
interesting point. It is not open source vs commercial that we are dealing with. It is
 > Big EDA vs everybody.

Yes.  Educating chip companies that there is now a light at the end of the tunnel because of greater ease of development due to 
FOSS building blocks is needed.  Any of us that can help that belief system change would benefit all by action, and I think 
results might be "in our lifetime" even when we're already "experienced" age.

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