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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 13:02:22 +0200
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Am 03.09.2015 um 22:30 schrieb DJ Delorie:
> Do we want to retain backwards compatibility?  Yes.  Do we want to do
> so at the expense of new development?  No.  How do we reconcile these
> two goals?  I don't know, and nobody has offered a workable solution.
...
> So how do we proceed?  I think each side needs to consider the needs
> of the other side, and try to come up with a solution that leads to a
> seamless transition from the old way to the new way.  We can't afford
> to either choose "don't change anything" or "replace the old with the
> new".
> 
> We need a third option that involves some compromise from each side.
> 
...
> Don't forget the ton of documentation and random web pages that refer
> to "gnetlist" that will no longer be the "preferred way".

I think the secret is to make the GUI-only workflow for the usual
schematics -> pcb -> Gerbers task complete. With orange and/or xgsch2pcb
we're almost there, so let's do the final touches. Tutorials should be
replaced with ones using GUI tools only. 90% of potential newbies don't
even try when they see a tutorial which asks to type commands. Having
the GUI workflow, the name of the underlying tool matters a lot less.

The birth of a new tool also brings in marketing opportunities. "gEDA
now with Xorn, the new powerful netlister. Now you can 1) ... 2) ... 3)
..." and so on. People put a lot more attention to something entirely
new than to refinements over the years.


Markus

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