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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 09:15:57 -0400
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Subject: Re: [geda-user] gEDA/gschem still alive?
From: "Bob Paddock (graceindustries AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-user AT delorie DOT com>
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>   When one raises the conceptual level of programming, one (usually)
> sacrifices flexibility and control, and invariably people explain it
> away with a hand-wave by saying "oh we really didn't want all of that
> flexibility and control anyway, because it made us make mistakes!"
> Everybody makes mistakes, creates buffer overruns and bad pointer
> dereferences etc...but competent developers make fewer mistakes and
> introduce fewer bugs.  Lowering the barriers of entry creates more
> programmers...not better ones.

In the embedded spaces that I've worked in and still do, if I make a
mistake in my code people die (Resume anyone?  Really would like less
stress in my life since my wife's suicide due to spending to much time
at work. :-(  http://www.kpaddock.org then
http://www.kpaddock.com/book ).

Hence I'm always looking for better tools/languages that can help
prevent mistakes.
At the moment I like the looks of Pony because of its mathematical
bases and design for correctness philosophy.
Don't know if is even works in the embedded space yet but will spend
sometime to find out.

That C lets us do damage so easily is not a great reason to support
the language no mater how fast it might run, that it is a standard or
that many people know it.
I'd rather have a program that runs slower and runs correctly *every
time*, that a fast one that crashes even once.

Someone one recently said that "C  is to C++ as Lung is to Lung Cancer"...

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