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On Jun 30, 2015, at 12:23 PM, gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu wrote:

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> On Tue, 30 Jun 2015, DJ Delorie wrote:
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>>> No. I find it incomprehensible. A good tool would
>> 
>> Others, especially users of PCB, disagree with you.  As you are not a
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> NOTE: this post is somewhat offtopic as most of it is about another EDA package.
> 
> I'm an user of PCB for a decade by now. I consider myself a relatively experienced PCB user. I am also sort of a PCB developer (I maintain my own fork in which I implemented a few changes that touched random parts of the code).
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> I partly agree with John Doty, and from time to time I do meet corner cases in PCB which could be handled better if there would be a more consistent foundation, a better way of modelling the world, with much less special cases.
> 
> However.... Maybe mostly because of his complaints, I somehow assumed most expensive EDA packages get these same things much better than PCB does, and PCB was sort of "for hobbysts". This happend mostly because I do not use windows and closed source software in general, so I didn't meet such $$$ EDA packages. Recently I got hired by a different company, and some guys are using one of the very much advertised (big market share), popular, expensive EDA package. I see their daily struggle.

My experience in EDA is that the big $$$ just buy you big problems. Of the three layout flows I’m supporting in my projects at the moment, the most productive is via Osmond PCB as used by a guy who does not do layout regularly. Osmond's not free, but it’s inexpensive and its file formats are very well documented (important for gEDA export). It’s not especially sophisticated, and this is a good thing. The professionals with the big $$$ tools take a lot longer to get the job done.

John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
http://www.noqsi.com/
jpd AT noqsi DOT com

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