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Date: | Tue, 23 Dec 2014 12:39:51 +0000 (UTC)
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From: | Johnny Cage <hellbourne AT yahoo DOT com>
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Subject: | Re: [geda-user] Unable to find definition of model...
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Well, I changed it to the following:
* gnetlist -g spice-sdb -o spice.net TIC_based_CF739.sch
*********************************************************
* Spice file generated by gnetlist=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 *
* spice-sdb version 4.28.2007 by SDB --=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 *
* provides advanced spice netlisting capability.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 *
* Documentation at http://www.brorson.com/gEDA/SPICE/=C2=A0=C2=A0 *
*********************************************************
*vvvvvvvv=C2=A0 Included SPICE model from /home/af3/Dropbox/Wrachtrup/simul=
ations/spice/NE3210S01.mod vvvvvvvv
.subckt NE3210S01_v1 Gate Drain Source Ugw=3D160um Ngf=3D1
.param CGD=3D1.4e-15
.param CGS=3D60e-15
.param CSD=3D80e-15
.param LG=3D0.82e-9
.param LD=3D0.74e-9
.param LS=3D0.11e-9
L1 Drain D 'LD'
L2 Gate G 'LG'
L3 Source S 'LS'
C1 Gate Drain 'CGD'
C2 Gate Source 'CGS'
C3 Drain Source 'CSD'
J1 D G S NE3210S01 Ugw=3D160 N=3D1 M=3D1
.model NE3210S01 njf level=3D15=20
+ VTO=3D-0.95 GAMMA=3D0.055 VGO=3D-0.323 VCH=3D1.03 GMMAX=3D0.08 VDSO=3D2 V=
SAT=3D0.44 KAPA=3D0.009 PEFF=3D101
+ VTSO=3D-10 VCO=3D-0.245 MU=3D0.001 VBA=3D1 VBC=3D0.5 DELTGM=3D0.17 ALPHA=
=3D0.1
+ RDB=3D1.0e9 CBS=3D160e-15 GDBM=3D60e-6 KDB=3D100 VDSM=3D100 GMMAXAC=3D0.0=
82 VTOAC=3D-0.92
+ GAMMAAC=3D0.06 KAPAAC=3D0.002 PEFFAC=3D294 VTSOAC=3D-10 DELTGMAC=3D0.17
+ IS=3D26e-12 N=3D1.5 KBK=3D0 IDSOC=3D0.1 VBR=3D15 NBR=3D2
+ RS=3D0.8 RG=3D2.0 RD=3D1.0 Ugw=3D160 Ngf=3D1
+ C11O=3D188e-15 C11TH=3D129e-15 VINFL=3D-0.706 DELTGS=3D0.527 DELTDS=3D0.2=
87 LAMBDA=3D0.03=20
+ C12SAT=3D19e-15 CGDSAT=3D20e-15 RIS=3D4.8 RID=3D0.001 TAU=3D2.1e-12 CDSO=
=3D124e-15
.ends NE3210S01_v1
*^^^^^^^^=C2=A0 End of included SPICE model from /home/af3/Dropbox/Wrachtru=
p/simulations/spice/NE3210S01.mod ^^^^^^^^
*
*=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=C2=A0 Begin SPICE netlist of ma=
in design =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
.options TEMP=3D25
.INCLUDE /home/af3/Dropbox/Wrachtrup/simulations/spice/simulation.cmd
VDS1 1 0 DC 2V
Vac1 Vin 0 DC 0 AC 10MV SIN(0 1MV 32KHZ)
C1 0 1 47nF=C2=A0=20
R2 0 Vin 10MEG=C2=A0=20
R1 0 Vout 1.5K=C2=A0=20
MX1 1 Vin Vout Vout NE3210S01
.end
Still does not work and with the same error message. Any ideas?
=20
On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 1:24 PM, myken <myken AT iae DOT nl> wrote:
=20
Hello John,
=20
To my knowledge, if you use a SUBCKT the component in question should have=
a X? as a refdes.
=20
Don't know what will happen if the name of the SUBCKT is the same as a MOD=
EL name inside the SUBCKT, never tried it.
=20
Merry Christmas,
Robert Zeegers.
=20
=20
On 23/12/14 12:56, Johnny Cage wrote:
=20
I am trying to ngspice the following code:=20
=20
* gnetlist -g spice-sdb -o spice.net TIC_based_CF739.sch
*********************************************************
* Spice file generated by gnetlist *
* spice-sdb version 4.28.2007 by SDB -- *
* provides advanced spice netlisting capability. *
* Documentation at http://www.brorson.com/gEDA/SPICE/ *
*********************************************************
*vvvvvvvv Included SPICE model from /home/af3/Dropbox/Wrachtrup/simulation=
s/spice/NE3210S01.mod vvvvvvvv
.SUBCKT NE3210S01 Gate Drain Source Ugw=3D160um Ngf=3D1
.param CGD=3D1.4e-15
.param CGS=3D60e-15
.param CSD=3D80e-15
.param LG=3D0.82e-9
.param LD=3D0.74e-9
.param LS=3D0.11e-9
L1 Drain D 'LD'
L2 Gate G 'LG'
L3 Source S 'LS'
C1 Gate Drain 'CGD'
C2 Gate Source 'CGS'
C3 Drain Source 'CSD'
J1 D G S NE3210S01 Ugw=3D160 N=3D1 M=3D1
.MODEL NE3210S01 njf level=3D15=20
+ VTO=3D-0.95 GAMMA=3D0.055 VGO=3D-0.323 VCH=3D1.03 GMMAX=3D0.08 VDSO=3D2 =
VSAT=3D0.44 KAPA=3D0.009 PEFF=3D101
+ VTSO=3D-10 VCO=3D-0.245 MU=3D0.001 VBA=3D1 VBC=3D0.5 DELTGM=3D0.17 ALPHA=
=3D0.1
+ RDB=3D1.0e9 CBS=3D160e-15 GDBM=3D60e-6 KDB=3D100 VDSM=3D100 GMMAXAC=3D0.=
082 VTOAC=3D-0.92
+ GAMMAAC=3D0.06 KAPAAC=3D0.002 PEFFAC=3D294 VTSOAC=3D-10 DELTGMAC=3D0.17
+ IS=3D26e-12 N=3D1.5 KBK=3D0 IDSOC=3D0.1 VBR=3D15 NBR=3D2
+ RS=3D0.8 RG=3D2.0 RD=3D1.0 Ugw=3D160 Ngf=3D1
+ C11O=3D188e-15 C11TH=3D129e-15 VINFL=3D-0.706 DELTGS=3D0.527 DELTDS=3D0.=
287 LAMBDA=3D0.03=20
+ C12SAT=3D19e-15 CGDSAT=3D20e-15 RIS=3D4.8 RID=3D0.001 TAU=3D2.1e-12 CDSO=
=3D124e-15
.ENDS NE3210S01
=20
=20
=20
*^^^^^^^^ End of included SPICE model from /home/af3/Dropbox/Wrachtrup/sim=
ulations/spice/NE3210S01.mod ^^^^^^^^
*
*=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Begin SPICE netlist of main de=
sign =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
.options TEMP=3D25
.INCLUDE /home/af3/Dropbox/Wrachtrup/simulations/spice/simulation.cmd
VDS1 1 0 DC 2V
Vac1 Vin 0 DC 0 AC 10MV SIN(0 1MV 32KHZ)
C1 0 1 47nF=20
R2 0 Vin 10MEG=20
R1 0 Vout 1.5K=20
MQ1 1 Vin Vout Vout NE3210S01=20
.end=20
However, on the results.txt file I get the following message:
=20
Circuit: * gnetlist -g spice-sdb -o spice.net tic_based_cf739.sch
=20
Error on line 46 : mq1 1 vin vout vout ne3210s01
Unable to find definition of model ne3210s01 - default assumed=20
=20
Does anyone know what the problem is?=20
Merry Christmas, John Hellbourne
=20
=20
=20
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lveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:16px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1419335463528_11644">Well, I changed =
it to the following:</div><div><br></div><blockquote><blockquote><div id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_1_1419335463528_11693" dir=3D"ltr">* gnetlist -g spice-sdb -o s=
pice.net TIC_based_CF739.sch<br style=3D"" class=3D"">*********************=
************************************<br style=3D"" class=3D"">* Spice file =
generated by gnetlist =
*<=
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; &n=
bsp; *<br style=3D"" class=3D"">* provides advanced spice netlisting =
capability. *<br style=3D"" class=
=3D"">* Documentation at http://www.brorson.com/gEDA/SPICE/ *<b=
r style=3D"" class=3D"">***************************************************=
******<br style=3D"" class=3D"">*vvvvvvvv Included SPICE model from /=
home/af3/Dropbox/Wrachtrup/simulations/spice/NE3210S01.mod vvvvvvvv<br styl=
e=3D"" class=3D"">.subckt NE3210S01_v1 Gate Drain Source Ugw=3D160um Ngf=3D=
1<br style=3D"" class=3D"">.param CGD=3D1.4e-15<br style=3D"" class=3D"">.p=
aram CGS=3D60e-15<br style=3D"" class=3D"">.param CSD=3D80e-15<br style=3D"=
" class=3D"">.param LG=3D0.82e-9<br style=3D"" class=3D"">.param LD=3D0.74e=
-9<br style=3D"" class=3D"">.param LS=3D0.11e-9<br style=3D"" class=3D"">L1=
Drain D 'LD'<br style=3D"" class=3D"">L2 Gate G 'LG'<br style=3D"" class=
=3D"">L3 Source S 'LS'<br style=3D"" class=3D"">C1 Gate Drain 'CGD'<br styl=
e=3D"" class=3D"">C2 Gate Source 'CGS'<br style=3D"" class=3D"">C3 Drain So=
urce 'CSD'<br style=3D"" class=3D"">J1 D G S NE3210S01 Ugw=3D160 N=3D1 M=3D=
1<br style=3D"" class=3D"">.model NE3210S01 njf level=3D15 <br style=3D"" c=
lass=3D"">+ VTO=3D-0.95 GAMMA=3D0.055 VGO=3D-0.323 VCH=3D1.03 GMMAX=3D0.08 =
VDSO=3D2 VSAT=3D0.44 KAPA=3D0.009 PEFF=3D101<br style=3D"" class=3D"">+ VTS=
O=3D-10 VCO=3D-0.245 MU=3D0.001 VBA=3D1 VBC=3D0.5 DELTGM=3D0.17 ALPHA=3D0.1=
<br style=3D"" class=3D"">+ RDB=3D1.0e9 CBS=3D160e-15 GDBM=3D60e-6 KDB=3D10=
0 VDSM=3D100 GMMAXAC=3D0.082 VTOAC=3D-0.92<br style=3D"" class=3D"">+ GAMMA=
AC=3D0.06 KAPAAC=3D0.002 PEFFAC=3D294 VTSOAC=3D-10 DELTGMAC=3D0.17<br style=
=3D"" class=3D"">+ IS=3D26e-12 N=3D1.5 KBK=3D0 IDSOC=3D0.1 VBR=3D15 NBR=3D2=
<br style=3D"" class=3D"">+ RS=3D0.8 RG=3D2.0 RD=3D1.0 Ugw=3D160 Ngf=3D1<br=
style=3D"" class=3D"">+ C11O=3D188e-15 C11TH=3D129e-15 VINFL=3D-0.706 DELT=
GS=3D0.527 DELTDS=3D0.287 LAMBDA=3D0.03 <br style=3D"" class=3D"">+ C12SAT=
=3D19e-15 CGDSAT=3D20e-15 RIS=3D4.8 RID=3D0.001 TAU=3D2.1e-12 CDSO=3D124e-1=
5<br style=3D"" class=3D"">.ends NE3210S01_v1<br style=3D"" class=3D""><br =
style=3D"" class=3D""><br style=3D"" class=3D""><br style=3D"" class=3D"">*=
^^^^^^^^ End of included SPICE model from /home/af3/Dropbox/Wrachtrup=
/simulations/spice/NE3210S01.mod ^^^^^^^^<br style=3D"" class=3D"">*<br sty=
le=3D"" class=3D"">*=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Begin =
SPICE netlist of main design =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br style=
=3D"" class=3D"">.options TEMP=3D25<br style=3D"" class=3D"">.INCLUDE /home=
/af3/Dropbox/Wrachtrup/simulations/spice/simulation.cmd<br style=3D"" class=
=3D"">VDS1 1 0 DC 2V<br style=3D"" class=3D"">Vac1 Vin 0 DC 0 AC 10MV SIN(0=
1MV 32KHZ)<br style=3D"" class=3D"">C1 0 1 47nF <br style=3D"" class=
=3D"">R2 0 Vin 10MEG <br style=3D"" class=3D"">R1 0 Vout 1.5K <=
br style=3D"" class=3D"">MX1 1 Vin Vout Vout NE3210S01<br style=3D"" class=
=3D"">.end<br></div></blockquote></blockquote><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_=
16_0_1_1419335463528_11643"><span>Still does not work and with the same err=
or message. Any ideas?</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><span></span></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><span></span></div> <div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br><=
/div><div style=3D"display: block;" class=3D"yahoo_quoted"> <div style=3D"f=
ont-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande,=
sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, H=
elvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px=
;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> On Tuesday, December=
23, 2014 1:24 PM, myken <myken AT iae DOT nl> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <b=
r><br> <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><div id=3D"yiv0499230664"><div>
<div class=3D"yiv0499230664moz-cite-prefix">Hello John,<br clear=3D"non=
e">
<br clear=3D"none">
To my knowledge, if you use a SUBCKT the component in question
should have a X? as a refdes.<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
Don't know what will happen if the name of the SUBCKT is the same
as a MODEL name inside the SUBCKT, never tried it.<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
Merry Christmas,<br clear=3D"none">
Robert Zeegers.<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
On 23/12/14 12:56, Johnny Cage wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div class=3D"yiv0499230664yqt0702701014" id=3D"yiv0499230664yqt34040">=
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaN=
eue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:=
16px;">
<div>I am trying to ngspice the following code:</div>
<div id=3D"yiv0499230664yui_3_16_0_1_1419335463528_9336"><br clear=
=3D"none">
</div>
<blockquote id=3D"yiv0499230664yui_3_16_0_1_1419335463528_9335">
<div id=3D"yiv0499230664yui_3_16_0_1_1419335463528_9254">* gnetli=
st -g
spice-sdb -o spice.net TIC_based_CF739.sch<br clear=3D"none">
*********************************************************<br cl=
ear=3D"none">
* Spice file generated by gnetlist *<br clear=3D"none">
* spice-sdb version 4.28.2007 by SDB -- *<br clear=3D"none">
* provides advanced spice netlisting capability. *<br clear=3D"=
none">
* Documentation at <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"=
yiv0499230664moz-txt-link-freetext" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.br=
orson.com/gEDA/SPICE/">http://www.brorson.com/gEDA/SPICE/</a> *<br clear=3D=
"none">
*********************************************************<br cl=
ear=3D"none">
*vvvvvvvv Included SPICE model from
/home/af3/Dropbox/Wrachtrup/simulations/spice/NE3210S01.mod
vvvvvvvv<br clear=3D"none">
.SUBCKT NE3210S01 Gate Drain Source Ugw=3D160um Ngf=3D1<br clea=
r=3D"none">
.param CGD=3D1.4e-15<br clear=3D"none">
.param CGS=3D60e-15<br clear=3D"none">
.param CSD=3D80e-15<br clear=3D"none">
.param LG=3D0.82e-9<br clear=3D"none">
.param LD=3D0.74e-9<br clear=3D"none">
.param LS=3D0.11e-9<br clear=3D"none">
L1 Drain D 'LD'<br clear=3D"none">
L2 Gate G 'LG'<br clear=3D"none">
L3 Source S 'LS'<br clear=3D"none">
C1 Gate Drain 'CGD'<br clear=3D"none">
C2 Gate Source 'CGS'<br clear=3D"none">
C3 Drain Source 'CSD'<br clear=3D"none">
J1 D G S NE3210S01 Ugw=3D160 N=3D1 M=3D1<br clear=3D"none">
.MODEL NE3210S01 njf level=3D15 <br clear=3D"none">
+ VTO=3D-0.95 GAMMA=3D0.055 VGO=3D-0.323 VCH=3D1.03 GMMAX=3D0.0=
8
VDSO=3D2 VSAT=3D0.44 KAPA=3D0.009 PEFF=3D101<br clear=3D"none">
+ VTSO=3D-10 VCO=3D-0.245 MU=3D0.001 VBA=3D1 VBC=3D0.5 DELTGM=
=3D0.17
ALPHA=3D0.1<br clear=3D"none">
+ RDB=3D1.0e9 CBS=3D160e-15 GDBM=3D60e-6 KDB=3D100 VDSM=3D100
GMMAXAC=3D0.082 VTOAC=3D-0.92<br clear=3D"none">
+ GAMMAAC=3D0.06 KAPAAC=3D0.002 PEFFAC=3D294 VTSOAC=3D-10
DELTGMAC=3D0.17<br clear=3D"none">
+ IS=3D26e-12 N=3D1.5 KBK=3D0 IDSOC=3D0.1 VBR=3D15 NBR=3D2<br c=
lear=3D"none">
+ RS=3D0.8 RG=3D2.0 RD=3D1.0 Ugw=3D160 Ngf=3D1<br clear=3D"none=
">
+ C11O=3D188e-15 C11TH=3D129e-15 VINFL=3D-0.706 DELTGS=3D0.527
DELTDS=3D0.287 LAMBDA=3D0.03 <br clear=3D"none">
+ C12SAT=3D19e-15 CGDSAT=3D20e-15 RIS=3D4.8 RID=3D0.001 TAU=3D2=
.1e-12
CDSO=3D124e-15<br clear=3D"none">
.ENDS NE3210S01<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
*^^^^^^^^ End of included SPICE model from
/home/af3/Dropbox/Wrachtrup/simulations/spice/NE3210S01.mod
^^^^^^^^<br clear=3D"none">
*<br clear=3D"none">
*=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Begin SPICE netlist=
of main design
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br clear=3D"none">
.options TEMP=3D25<br clear=3D"none">
.INCLUDE
/home/af3/Dropbox/Wrachtrup/simulations/spice/simulation.cmd<br=
clear=3D"none">
VDS1 1 0 DC 2V<br clear=3D"none">
Vac1 Vin 0 DC 0 AC 10MV SIN(0 1MV 32KHZ)<br clear=3D"none">
C1 0 1 47nF <br clear=3D"none">
R2 0 Vin 10MEG <br clear=3D"none">
R1 0 Vout 1.5K <br clear=3D"none">
MQ1 1 Vin Vout Vout NE3210S01 <br clear=3D"none">
.end</div>
</blockquote>
<div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv0499230664yui_3_16_0_1_1419335463528_9444=
">However, on
the results.txt file I get the following message:<br clear=3D"non=
e">
</div>
<div id=3D"yiv0499230664yui_3_16_0_1_1419335463528_9447"><br clear=
=3D"none">
</div>
<div id=3D"yiv0499230664yui_3_16_0_1_1419335463528_9445">Circuit: *=
gnetlist -g
spice-sdb -o spice.net tic_based_cf739.sch<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
Error on line 46 : mq1 1 vin vout vout ne3210s01<br clear=3D"none=
">
Unable to find definition of model ne3210s01 - default assumed
<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div id=3D"yiv0499230664yui_3_16_0_1_1419335463528_9448"><br clear=
=3D"none">
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv0499230664yui_3_16_0_1_1419335463528_9449=
">Does anyone
know what the problem is?</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv0499230664yui_3_16_0_1_1419335463528_9450=
"><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv0499230664yui_3_16_0_1_1419335463528_9451=
">Merry
Christmas,</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv0499230664yui_3_16_0_1_1419335463528_9452=
">John
Hellbourne<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
</div>
</blockquote></div>
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