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Subject: Re: [geda-user] Fonts for PCB Designer
From: Erich Heinzle <a1039181 AT gmail DOT com>
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I have now uploaded a one stroke greek font, and a cyrillic font, to the
FTP site, along with glyph tables to allow people to figure out the
keyboard mapping.

I have no experience with asiatic languages, but the jpeg link atommann
provided looked interesting, describing a standard chinese CAD font.

I created a path for pictogram 01 shown, and exported as an eps, then ran
pstoedit, and then used pcbFontTool to generate a default 4000 mil
character.

I have attached a quick example pcb file below, with the pictogram mapped
to the left quote (under the tilde, usually maps to a blank rectangle in
PCB)

at 4000 mil default font height it isn't very legible at all, but if a
larger default font size were used in the final scaling then the pictogram
would be legible without zooming.

zooming in and out with S or shift+S will give you an idea.

I could slowly trudge my way through the jpeg atommann linked to and create
a gEDA PCB one stroke pictogram font, but gEDA PCB's text object will need
to be modified to accept a parameter indicating a particular font file and
an index of 00...94 in the case of the GB/T 13844-92 cad standard chinese
font pictograms.

If there is a way to make such pictograms usable by text objects (maybe its
easy with the PCB code, I don't know), and if a chinese reader can do QA on
my work output, I could convert them to a PCB compatible font.

Cheers,

Erich,


#=============cut here ========
# release: pcb 20110918

# To read pcb files, the pcb version (or the git source date) must be >=
the file version
FileVersion[20070407]

PCB["" 85000 85000]

Grid[1000.0 0 0 0]
Cursor[47000 43000 0.000000]
PolyArea[3100.006200]
Thermal[0.500000]
DRC[1000 1000 1000 1000 1500 1000]
Flags("nameonpcb,uniquename,clearnew,snappin")
Groups("1,c:2:3:4:5:6,s:7:8")
Styles["Signal,1000,3600,2000,1000:Power,2500,6000,3500,1000:Fat,4000,6000,3500,1000:Skinny,600,2402,1181,600"]

#Here's chinese pictogram 0,01 from the link atommann provided
#inkscape was used to produce a path over the pictogram
#the pictogram was exported as a 200 dpi eps
#pstoedit was run with
#
# ChinesePictograms.eps -psarg "-r1000x1000" -f pcb
ChinesePictograms200dpi.pcb
#
#then pcbFontTool was used
#
# cat ChinesePictograms200dpi.pcb | pcbFontTool -s\` >
ChinesePictogram001.txt
#
#and this was embedded in a PCB fill to try it out, and mapped to the left
single quote (on the same key as tilde ~)
#it is not especially legible at the smallest, default text size, but with
zooming it is quite legible.
#if gEDA PCB's text objects can be modified such that
# 1) any given text object can refer to a particular font file, and
# 2) a character code of two digits length, i.e. 01...99, and we can do the
chinese pictograms 13844-92 atommann refers to.
# and someone slowly works their way though the jpg atommann lnked too (I
could do this)
# and atommann or someone who can read chinese confirms that the symbols
are legible, then we are well on the way.

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Attribute("PCB::grid::unit" "mil")
Layer(1 "poly")
(
    Text[26000 28000 0 770 "`" "clearline"]
)
Layer(2 "ground")
(
)
Layer(3 "signal2")
(
)
Layer(4 "signal3")
(
)
Layer(5 "power")
(
)
Layer(6 "bottom")
(
)
Layer(7 "outline")
(
)
Layer(8 "spare")
(
)
Layer(9 "signal9")
(
)
Layer(10 "silk")
(
)
#=============cut here ========



On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Atommann <atommann AT gmail DOT com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> 2014-08-28 20:24 GMT+08:00 Erich Heinzle <a1039181 AT gmail DOT com>:
> >
> > If there are any users keen on having the Hershey cyrillic or greek
> glyphs
> > converted I can convert them too, or if users have a FOSS centerline
> > aka 1 stroke font they would like converted, I can give it a go.
>
> This is great!
> With this method I think it's possible to put Chinese characters on PCB.
>
> There's a standard for Chinese characters for CAD stuff.
> Standard Number:  GB/T 13844-1992
> Vector Danxian songti font set and data set of Chinese ideogram for
> graphics information interchange
> http://www.freestd.us/soft/181203.htm
>
> The characters looks like this -
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/atommann/14883660247/
>
> It's a vector font. But as far as I know there's no open source
> version of this font.
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Atommann
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><br>I have now uploaded a one stroke greek =
font, and a cyrillic font, to the FTP site, along with glyph tables to allo=
w people to figure out the keyboard mapping.<br><br></div>I have no experie=
nce with asiatic languages, but the jpeg link atommann provided looked inte=
resting, describing a standard chinese CAD font.<br>
<br></div>I created a path for pictogram 01 shown, and exported as an eps, =
then ran pstoedit, and then used pcbFontTool to generate a default 4000 mil=
 character.<br><br></div>I have attached a quick example pcb file below, wi=
th the pictogram mapped to the left quote (under the tilde, usually maps to=
 a blank rectangle in PCB)<br>
<div><br></div><div>at 4000 mil default font height it isn&#39;t very legib=
le at all, but if a larger default font size were used in the final scaling=
 then the pictogram would be legible without zooming.<br></div><div><br>
</div><div>zooming in and out with S or shift+S will give you an idea.<br><=
br></div><div>I could slowly trudge my way through the jpeg atommann linked=
 to and create a gEDA PCB one stroke pictogram font, but gEDA PCB&#39;s tex=
t object will need to be modified to accept a parameter indicating a partic=
ular font file and an index of 00...94 in the case of the GB/T 13844-92 cad=
 standard chinese font pictograms.<br>
</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>If there is a way to make such pictogr=
ams usable by text objects (maybe its easy with the PCB code, I don&#39;t k=
now), and if a chinese reader can do QA on my work output, I could convert =
them to a PCB compatible font.<br>
<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Cheers,<br><br></div><div class=3D"gma=
il_extra">Erich,<br><br><br>#=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3Dcut her=
e =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br># release: pcb 20110918<br><br># To read pcb =
files, the pcb version (or the git source date) must be &gt;=3D the file ve=
rsion<br>
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al[0.500000]<br>DRC[1000 1000 1000 1000 1500 1000]<br>Flags(&quot;nameonpcb=
,uniquename,clearnew,snappin&quot;)<br>
Groups(&quot;1,c:2:3:4:5:6,s:7:8&quot;)<br>Styles[&quot;Signal,1000,3600,20=
00,1000:Power,2500,6000,3500,1000:Fat,4000,6000,3500,1000:Skinny,600,2402,1=
181,600&quot;]<br><br>#Here&#39;s chinese pictogram 0,01 from the link atom=
mann provided<br>
#inkscape was used to produce a path over the pictogram<br>#the pictogram w=
as exported as a 200 dpi eps<br>#pstoedit was run with <br>#<br># ChinesePi=
ctograms.eps -psarg &quot;-r1000x1000&quot; -f pcb ChinesePictograms200dpi.=
pcb<br>
#<br>#then pcbFontTool was used<br># <br># cat ChinesePictograms200dpi.pcb =
| pcbFontTool -s\` &gt; ChinesePictogram001.txt<br>#<br>#and this was embed=
ded in a PCB fill to try it out, and mapped to the left single quote (on th=
e same key as tilde ~)<br>
#it is not especially legible at the smallest, default text size, but with =
zooming it is quite legible.<br>#if gEDA PCB&#39;s text objects can be modi=
fied such that<br># 1) any given text object can refer to a particular font=
 file, and<br>
# 2) a character code of two digits length, i.e. 01...99, and we can do the=
 chinese pictograms 13844-92 atommann refers to.<br># and someone slowly wo=
rks their way though the jpg atommann lnked too (I could do this)<br># and =
atommann or someone who can read chinese confirms that the symbols are legi=
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ymbolLine[735 333 755 291 800]<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 SymbolLine[755 291 781=
 258 800]<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 SymbolLine[781 258 809 234 800]<br>=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 SymbolLine[809 234 835 219 800]<br>)<br>Attribute(&quot;PCB::g=
rid::unit&quot; &quot;mil&quot;)<br>
Layer(1 &quot;poly&quot;)<br>(<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Text[26000 28000 0 770=
 &quot;`&quot; &quot;clearline&quot;]<br>)<br>Layer(2 &quot;ground&quot;)<b=
r>(<br>)<br>Layer(3 &quot;signal2&quot;)<br>(<br>)<br>Layer(4 &quot;signal3=
&quot;)<br>
(<br>)<br>Layer(5 &quot;power&quot;)<br>(<br>)<br>Layer(6 &quot;bottom&quot=
;)<br>(<br>)<br>Layer(7 &quot;outline&quot;)<br>(<br>)<br>Layer(8 &quot;spa=
re&quot;)<br>(<br>)<br>Layer(9 &quot;signal9&quot;)<br>(<br>)<br>Layer(10 &=
quot;silk&quot;)<br>
(<br>)<br>#=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3Dcut here =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">=C2=A0 <br></div><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 4=
:16 PM, Atommann <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:atommann AT gmail DOT com=
" target=3D"_blank">atommann AT gmail DOT com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
2014-08-28 20:24 GMT+08:00 Erich Heinzle &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:a1039181 AT gma=
il.com">a1039181 AT gmail DOT com</a>&gt;:<br>
<div class=3D"">&gt;<br>
&gt; If there are any users keen on having the Hershey cyrillic or greek gl=
yphs<br>
&gt; converted I can convert them too, or if users have a FOSS centerline<b=
r>
&gt; aka 1 stroke font they would like converted, I can give it a go.<br>
<br>
</div>This is great!<br>
With this method I think it&#39;s possible to put Chinese characters on PCB=
.<br>
<br>
There&#39;s a standard for Chinese characters for CAD stuff.<br>
Standard Number:=C2=A0 GB/T 13844-1992<br>
Vector Danxian songti font set and data set of Chinese ideogram for<br>
graphics information interchange<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.freestd.us/soft/181203.htm" target=3D"_blank">http://=
www.freestd.us/soft/181203.htm</a><br>
<br>
The characters looks like this -<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.flickr.com/photos/atommann/14883660247/" target=3D"_=
blank">https://www.flickr.com/photos/atommann/14883660247/</a><br>
<br>
It&#39;s a vector font. But as far as I know there&#39;s no open source<br>
version of this font.<br>
<span class=3D""><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
--<br>
Best regards,<br>
Atommann<br>
</font></span></blockquote></div><br></div></div>

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