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Date:	Fri, 26 Oct 2012 00:51:47 +0200
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Subject:	Re: [geda-user] The state of gEDA/gaf
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On 26 October 2012 00:11, Markus Hitter <mah AT jump-ing DOT de> wrote:
>
> One experience from another project - RepRap 3D printers - is, people are
> extremely shy these days. I think it's to some extent because a few years
> ago experienced users didn't hesitate to blast out a "you fool!" when a
> newbie did something not entirely accurate. That strikes back these days,
> press stories here and there about people taken to court for internet
> postings do the rest.

I think it is healthy that some kind of reality feedback reach some of
the largest egos and pull them back to ground. Most people behave when
using full name. :-)

>
> Would it be manageable you enable these account anonymously? I mean, likely
> you get notified on account creation anyways, so you could easily enable the
> account without being asked. Or you could set up a template to ask from your
> side, lowering the entry barrier.

What about nicknames and real identity known to the back system?
Problem is mostly search engines getting your name and email and bad
boys targeting that account with viagra spam. I personally find nicks
a bit less trustworthy, unless that nick has a track record in the
project, than somebody posting  with full name or a short version of
their real name. Identity stealing may start at any site with bad
security and common passwords across the net.

> Please don't get me wrong, I think such an expectation is the end of the
> story for these shy people already. Taking responsibilities is simply a
> no-go, even for not-so-shy people, as we all have sufficient other duties
> these days. For me, every committment is welcome, being it a one-off or
> being it lasting for years.

Probably the biggest no-go, in my opinion, is that git is not
something a casual user/programmer knows about. That tool is so mighty
that the chance of screwing up is preventing a newbie more than
revealing his identity. I am compiling tools using mercurial, bzr and
git because they are nice ways of getting the source from the net down
to my computer. Of these tools I only know git good enough to
contribute since I use it everyday at work. I have done some changes
in hg and bzr clones only to get merge problems I didn't find my way
out of next time I did a pull from the repository.

Sure, bzr and hg are well documented, and there are tutorials
available on the net, but those I cannot bother to read just to upload
a patch for a typo. For the casual git user, geda wiki has actually a
section on how to use git for this particular project. That is
something other projects could learn from. The page is a bit hidden,
but it is there.

-- 
Svenn

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