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| From: | "Graham S (graham DOT seale AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-help AT delorie DOT com>
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| Date: | Fri, 5 Apr 2019 00:56:07 +0100
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| Subject: | Re: [geda-help] PCB and resizing via holes?
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Hi Chad
OK - my attempt did not work.
The DBUS messaging daemon clearly is installed OK.
Getting PCB installed needs to get past the configure script to progress
further.
Installing Linux Mint 19.1 cannot happen immediately until I get another
hard drive.
For me, I have to get a new distro fully up and working before I abandon
the current one, and there is quite a lot to transfer and set up.
At least for the immediate need, I can keep (sort of) using the 2014
version of PCB.
Regards
Graham
On Fri, 5 Apr 2019 at 00:40, Graham S <graham DOT seale AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
> I downloaded the latest version using ..
> git clone git://git.geda-project.org/pcb.git
>
> All seemed to go OK, and all the required tools (gcc, automake,etc) are
> all present.
> The ,/autogen.sh ran OK and made the configure file.
> Then I encountered the first stumble while running ,/configure.
> It is about DBUS.
> -----------------------------------
> checking for whether to use DBUS... yes
> checking for DBUS... no
> configure: error: Cannot find dbus-1 >= 0.61, install it and rerun
> ./configure
> Please review the following errors:
> No package 'dbus-1' found
> ------------------------------------
> I this Linux Mint, it uses the Ubuntu (Xenial).
> The package is called "dbus", not "dbus-1" although there are references
> to "dbus-1-debug" and dbus-1-doc".
>
> I checked ..
> --------------------------------------
> graham # apt-get install dbus
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> dbus is already the newest version (1.10.6-1ubuntu3.3).
> ----------------------------------------
> So we do have DBUS installed OK - it came with the distro automatically
> installed.
> Unfortunately, configure looks for dbus-1.
>
> I an a application user, not a programmer.
> I would not usually meddle with automatically generated scripts, but might
> it be something as easy as replacing all references "dbus-1" with "dbus" in
> the configure script?
>
> Maybe I will try it anyway. It might make a mess, but I can start over if
> it does.
> Regards
> Graham
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 21:58, Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) [via
> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Graham-
>> This is a known bug:
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/pcb/+bug/1496603
>>
>> It has to do with how window managers intercept the "Alt" key. Likely
>> when you press "Alt" and click, you'll drag around the entire window. The
>> window manager is intercepting the keystrokes and acting instead of passing
>> the input along to pcb. It's possible that the selection of this key
>> combination actually predated that window manager behavior.
>>
>> We're planning to fix it in the next release, which I imagine will drop
>> in the next couple of months.
>>
>> The version you're using is obviously 5 years old, and many improvements
>> have been made in that time. I would strongly recommend updating to the
>> latest release if possible. If your distribution doesn't include newer
>> versions, you can always build and install pcb from source. I'd be happy to
>> help you with that if you need.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --Chad
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 4:29 PM Graham S (graham DOT seale AT gmail DOT com) [via
>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you. This does work!
>>> I have to ask, when did it change, and, if you know, then why?
>>> The motivation for assigning part of a logical key binding set to a menu
>>> function that is available in the toolbar anyway seems unclear.
>>>
>>> Do I need to use a more up-to-date version?
>>> For me to get a more recent version from the repository, I would have to
>>> install Linux Mint 19.1, or use some more deliberate method.
>>> Anyway, my thanks for the prompt reply, and that it did work.
>>>
>>> My regards
>>> Graham
>>>
>>> On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 21:08, DJ Delorie <dj AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> You can select the via, and use the "command line":
>>>>
>>>> :ChangeDrillSize(Selected,=28mil)
>>>>
>>>> (i.e. press ":" and type "Change...", then <ENTER>)
>>>>
>>>> You can also override the menu bar shortcuts by finding gpcb-menu.res
>>>> (you might need to build pcb from sources to get a copy), editing it,
>>>> and putting it in ~/.pcb/
>>>>
>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Hi Chad<br></div>OK - my attempt did not wo=
rk.<br></div>The DBUS messaging daemon clearly is installed OK.<br></div><d=
iv><br>Getting PCB installed needs to get past the configure script to prog=
ress further.<br></div><div>Installing Linux Mint 19.1 cannot happen immedi=
ately until I get another hard drive.<br></div><div>For me, I have to get a=
new distro fully up and working before I abandon the current one, and ther=
e is quite a lot to transfer and set up.<br></div><div>At least for the imm=
ediate need, I can keep (sort of) using the 2014 version of PCB.<br></div><=
div><br></div><div>Regards<br></div><div>Graham<br></div><br></div><br><div=
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, 5 Apr =
2019 at 00:40, Graham S <<a href=3D"mailto:graham DOT seale AT gmail DOT com">graha=
m DOT seale AT gmail DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);p=
adding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><=
div><div><div>I downloaded=C2=A0 the latest version using ..<br>git clone g=
it://<a href=3D"http://git.geda-project.org/pcb.git" target=3D"_blank">git.=
geda-project.org/pcb.git</a><br><br></div>All seemed to go OK, and all the =
required tools (gcc, automake,etc) are all present.<br></div><div>The ,/aut=
ogen.sh ran OK and made the configure file.<br></div>Then I encountered the=
first stumble while running ,/configure.<br>=C2=A0It is about DBUS.<br>---=
--------------------------------<br>checking for whether to use DBUS... yes=
<br>checking for DBUS... no<br>configure: error: Cannot find dbus-1 >=3D=
0.61, install it and rerun ./configure<br>Please review the following erro=
rs:<br>No package 'dbus-1' found<br>-------------------------------=
-----<br></div>I this Linux Mint, it uses the Ubuntu (Xenial).<br></div>The=
package is called "dbus", not "dbus-1" although there =
are references to "dbus-1-debug" and dbus-1-doc".<br><br></d=
iv>I checked ..<br>--------------------------------------<br>graham # apt-g=
et install dbus<br>Reading package lists... Done<br>Building dependency tre=
e=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <br>Reading state information... Done=
<br>dbus is already the newest version (1.10.6-1ubuntu3.3).<br>------------=
----------------------------<br></div>So we do have DBUS installed OK - it =
came with the distro automatically installed.<br></div>Unfortunately, confi=
gure looks for dbus-1.<br><br></div>I an a application user, not a programm=
er.<br>I would not usually meddle with automatically generated scripts, but=
might it be something as easy as replacing all references "dbus-1&quo=
t; with "dbus" in the configure script?<br><br></div>Maybe I will=
try it anyway. It might make a mess, but I can start over if it does.<br><=
/div>Regards<br></div>Graham<br><div><div><div><div><div><br><br><div><br><=
br><div><div><div><br><br><br><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div>=
</div></div></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"lt=
r" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 21:58, Chad Parker (<a href=
=3D"mailto:parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">parker DOT charles AT gmail=
.com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">g=
eda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" targ=
et=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi Graham-</div><d=
iv>This is a known bug:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"https://bugs.l=
aunchpad.net/pcb/+bug/1496603" target=3D"_blank">https://bugs.launchpad.net=
/pcb/+bug/1496603</a></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div>It has to do wit=
h how window managers intercept the "Alt" key. Likely when you pr=
ess "Alt" and click, you'll drag around the entire window. Th=
e window manager is intercepting the keystrokes and acting instead of passi=
ng the input along to pcb. It's possible that the selection of this key=
combination actually predated that window manager behavior.<br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div>We're planning to fix it in the next release=
, which I imagine will drop in the next couple of months.</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>The version you're using is obviously 5 years old, and many imp=
rovements have been made in that time. I would strongly recommend updating =
to the latest release if possible. If your distribution doesn't include=
newer versions, you can always build and install pcb from source. I'd =
be happy to help you with that if you need. <br></div><div><br></div><div>T=
hanks,</div><div>--Chad<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 4:29 PM Graham S (<=
a href=3D"mailto:graham DOT seale AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">graham DOT seale AT gma=
il.com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank"=
>geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px soli=
d rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div><=
div>Thank you. This does work!<br></div>I have to ask, when did it change, =
and, if you know, then why?<br></div><div>The motivation for assigning part=
of a logical key binding set to a menu function that is available in the t=
oolbar anyway seems unclear.<br></div><div><br>Do I need to use a more up-t=
o-date version?<br></div>For me to get a more recent version from the repos=
itory, I would have to install Linux Mint 19.1, or use some more deliberate=
method.<br>Anyway, my thanks for the prompt reply, and that it did work.<b=
r><br></div></div>My regards<br></div>Graham<br></div><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 21:08=
, DJ Delorie <<a href=3D"mailto:dj AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">dj AT del=
orie.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-le=
ft:1ex"><br>
You can select the via, and use the "command line":<br>
<br>
:ChangeDrillSize(Selected,=3D28mil)<br>
<br>
(i.e. press ":" and type "Change...", then <ENTER>=
;)<br>
<br>
You can also override the menu bar shortcuts by finding gpcb-menu.res<br>
(you might need to build pcb from sources to get a copy), editing it,<br>
and putting it in ~/.pcb/<br>
</blockquote></div>
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