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Hi Chad,
Before I got your reply I had prepared the following:
I might add that I have added "picaxe" to /usr/share/gEDA/sym/ with the
following 3 symbols:
SIP3.fp
SIP4.fp
SO8W.fp
but picaxe does not show up under Library.
I have followed BW's tutorial, but I do not have a gafrc file. How do I get
that?
torben
On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 1:43 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
> Hi Chad,
> In gschem I only have "library" to chose symbols from. I wanted more - fx.
> newlib. How do I get it?
>
> I have used the instructions in:
>
> http://www.gedasymbols.org/cvs.html
>
> to place the following:
>
> torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G: ls /home/geda
> CVS CVSROOT scripts www
>
> where /home/geda was an empty directory.
>
> torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:/home/geda/scripts$ ls
> 2pad.cgi dilpad.cgi footprint.pcb reindex
> cgi-lib.pl eps2png global_list.cgi search.cgi
> csv.cgi footprint.cgi make-fp-library symbol.cgi
> CVS footprint.html math.pl symbol.html
>
> Can I get from this to a more comprehensive list of symbols in gschem? I
> am stuck.
> best regards
> torben
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 7:58 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Chad,
>> OK. I will try again.
>> torben
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 3:45 PM Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com)
>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>
>>> Torben-
>>>
>>> The square terminal generally indicates "pin 1" of the device. This is
>>> done so that when you're installing the components, you know the proper
>>> orientation. For some parts this is important, like for the opamps in the
>>> design. For other parts, like the resistors, it doesn't matter, they can go
>>> either way.
>>>
>>> Part of the fun of building a circuit board is figuring out where to
>>> place the components and how to connect them, kind of like a puzzle, but
>>> with no one answer. You can place them however you like. Many people use a
>>> strategy where you try to place the parts such that you minimize the
>>> lengths of the traces connecting those parts. You could also arrange them
>>> in a pattern to resemble a bug, or a star, or anything you find
>>> aesthetically pleasing. In most cases (i.e. not radio frequency or high
>>> speed (>10s of MHz) digital electronics), the exact placement of parts
>>> doesn't matter.
>>>
>>> --Chad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 9:32 AM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via
>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Chad,
>>>> Should I place R101, R102 and R103 together? And if I do, should'nt
>>>> R103 have round terminal points at both ends? I assume that the square ones
>>>> are to be connected to the GND.
>>>> I am not an electronics expert.
>>>> torben
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 2:13 PM Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com)
>>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Torben-
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay, I see what you're referring to. This is a bug in the tutorial.
>>>>> It looks to me like the first set of figures were created with an older
>>>>> version of PCB and the other set with a newer one and a later date. What
>>>>> likely happened is that the same circuit was used, but the schematic was
>>>>> redrawn when the new figures were added, and because the parts would have
>>>>> been arranged differently, the reference designators ended up changing. The
>>>>> underlying circuit appears to be the same, just the names of the parts have
>>>>> been swapped. You can even see that the footprint of R101 is different.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ultimately, the rat lines on your pcb should be consistent with the
>>>>> connections you made in the schematic. So, as long as you connect your
>>>>> parts accordingly, you should be fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for pointing this out. We should fix it so that it's consistent.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> --Chad
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 5:36 PM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via
>>>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Chad,
>>>>>> The link is:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:gsch2pcb_tutorial
>>>>>> best regards
>>>>>> torben
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 10:55 PM Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com)
>>>>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Torben-
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you still working through the Bill Wilson tutorial? If so, I'm
>>>>>>> not sure what you mean by page 6. Can you please provide a link to the
>>>>>>> tutorial you're referring to?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> --Chad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 3:44 PM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com)
>>>>>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Chad,
>>>>>>>> I am confused by the UBUNTU geda tutorial.
>>>>>>>> In the beginning R101, R102 and R103 are placed together. On page
>>>>>>>> 6 R102, R201 and R103 are placed together in the same place and R102 is
>>>>>>>> placed where R201 was before.
>>>>>>>> I have other problems - fx with lines created in PCB - but I would
>>>>>>>> take one example to see if the confusion is my problem.
>>>>>>>> torben
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Chad,
>>>>>>>>> I deleted all files except Project, one.sch and two.sch and ran
>>>>>>>>> gsch2pcb once - and it worked.
>>>>>>>>> torben
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 11:11 PM Chad Parker (
>>>>>>>>> parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <
>>>>>>>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Torben-
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The second time you run gsch2pcb it looks at the differences. The
>>>>>>>>>> first time it may not have picked up all of the elements due to footprint
>>>>>>>>>> name errors. The second time (and all subsequent times) you run it, it
>>>>>>>>>> produces board.*new*.pcb, which contains the new elements, so
>>>>>>>>>> that it doesn't overwrite your original file. To get them into the layout,
>>>>>>>>>> you have to do as it says: open the layout then go to the file menu, select
>>>>>>>>>> "load layout data to paste buffer", and select board.new.pcb. Then you can
>>>>>>>>>> paste them into the layout.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Alternatively, if you haven't done any work on the pcb yet, you
>>>>>>>>>> can delete board.pcb and board.new.pcb and rerun gsch2pcb.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Also, make sure that you execute Select > Disperse All Elements,
>>>>>>>>>> as sometimes the elements will overlap when they're brought into the layout.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> --Chad
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 2:44 PM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com)
>>>>>>>>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>> It is rather confusing. When I run gsch2pcb project I get:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> Done processing. Work performed:
>>>>>>>>>>> 5 file elements and 0 m4 elements added to board.new.pcb.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Next steps:
>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Run pcb on your file board.pcb.
>>>>>>>>>>> 2. From within PCB, select "File -> Load layout data to paste
>>>>>>>>>>> buffer"
>>>>>>>>>>> and select board.new.pcb to load the new footprints into
>>>>>>>>>>> your existing layout.
>>>>>>>>>>> 3. From within PCB, select "File -> Load netlist file" and
>>>>>>>>>>> select
>>>>>>>>>>> board.net to load the updated netlist.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 4. From within PCB, enter
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> :ExecuteFile(board.cmd)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> to update the pin names of all footprints.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> First it does not tally with the description given in the
>>>>>>>>>>> tutorial - I am using the one that comes with Ubuntu.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Second, when I run pcb board.pcb I get only the transistor and
>>>>>>>>>>> the resistor on the screen with a yellow line leading nowhere. Should'nt I
>>>>>>>>>>> get both one.sch and two.sch? If I folllow the instructions above I add the
>>>>>>>>>>> one.sch to the screen all bundled up. Both one.sch and two.sch appear to be
>>>>>>>>>>> OK.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As I say, I am confused.
>>>>>>>>>>> best ergards
>>>>>>>>>>> torben
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:46 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It worked.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:26 PM Chad Parker (
>>>>>>>>>>>> parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <
>>>>>>>>>>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Torben-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Welcome to the community! Please feel free to post any
>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions you may have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the issue is that the CONNECTOR is no longer an m4
>>>>>>>>>>>>> element, so, it's not generating it the way the tutorial thinks it should.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking through the pcb element footprints, there is, however,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a footprint "CONNECTOR 1 2". I suspect that will serve for your purposes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please try changing "CONNECTOR 2 1" --> "CONNECTOR 1 2" and see if that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fixes it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Chad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 7:00 AM Torben Friis (
>>>>>>>>>>>>> friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is my first attempt at using geda-help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When in the Bill Wilson gEDA tutorial I use:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gsch2pcb project
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I get the following message in the log:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CONN202: can't find PCB element for footprint CONNECTOR-2-1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (value=unknown).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So device CONN202 will not be in the layout.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The attributes of the connector are.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> device: BNC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> footprint: CONNECTOR 2 1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refdes: CONN202
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that I have followed the instructions, so what is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> torben
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi Chad,</div><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-s=
ize:large">Before I got your reply I had prepared the following:</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;fon=
t-size:large">I might add that I have added "picaxe" to /usr/shar=
e/gEDA/sym/ with the following 3 symbols:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default"=
style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div=
><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-ser=
if;font-size:large">SIP3.fp</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font=
-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">SIP4.fp</div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:large">SO8W.fp</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:ari=
al,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defa=
ult" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">but p=
icaxe does not show up under Library.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" sty=
le=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;f=
ont-size:large">I have followed BW's tutorial, but I do not have a gafr=
c file. How do I get that?<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f=
ont-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">torben<br></div></di=
v></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Jan 9, 2019=
at 1:43 PM Torben Friis <<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D=
"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,2=
04,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"g=
mail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:lar=
ge">Hi Chad,<br>In gschem I only have "library" to chose symbols =
from. I wanted more - fx. newlib. How do I get it?<br><br>I have used the i=
nstructions in:<br><br><a href=3D"http://www.gedasymbols.org/cvs.html" targ=
et=3D"_blank">http://www.gedasymbols.org/cvs.html</a><br><br>to place the f=
ollowing:<br><br>torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G: ls /home/geda<br>CVS=C2=A0 C=
VSROOT=C2=A0 scripts=C2=A0 www<br><br>where /home/geda was an empty directo=
ry.<br><br>torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:/home/geda/scripts$ ls<br>2pad.cgi=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 dilpad.cgi=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 footprint.pcb=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 reindex<br><a href=3D"http://cgi-lib.pl" target=3D"_blan=
k">cgi-lib.pl</a>=C2=A0 eps2png=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 global_list.cgi=C2=A0 search.cgi<br>csv.cgi=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =
footprint.cgi=C2=A0=C2=A0 make-fp-library=C2=A0 symbol.cgi<br>CVS=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 footprint.html=C2=A0 <a href=3D"htt=
p://math.pl" target=3D"_blank">math.pl</a>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 symbol.html<br><br>Can I get from this to a more comp=
rehensive list of symbols in gschem? I am stuck.<br>best regards<br>torben<=
br><br></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On=
Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 7:58 PM Torben Friis <<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gma=
il.com" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1p=
x solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"g=
mail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:lar=
ge">Hi Chad,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,h=
elvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">OK. I will try again.</div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:large">torben<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"l=
tr">On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 3:45 PM Chad Parker (<a href=3D"mailto:parker.ch=
arles AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com=
</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-h=
elp AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pad=
ding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Torben-</div><div><br></div><div>The s=
quare terminal generally indicates "pin 1" of the device. This is=
done so that when you're installing the components, you know the prope=
r orientation. For some parts this is important, like for the opamps in the=
design. For other parts, like the resistors, it doesn't matter, they c=
an go either way.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Part of the fun of building =
a circuit board is figuring out where to place the components and how to co=
nnect them, kind of like a puzzle, but with no one answer. You can place th=
em however you like. Many people use a strategy where you try to place the =
parts such that you minimize the lengths of the traces connecting those par=
ts. You could also arrange them in a pattern to resemble a bug, or a star, =
or anything you find aesthetically pleasing. In most cases (i.e. not radio =
frequency or high speed (>10s of MHz) digital electronics), the exact pl=
acement of parts doesn't matter.<br></div><div><br></div><div>--Chad<br=
></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 9:32 AM Torben Friis (<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gma=
il.com" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:ged=
a-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com<=
/a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,hel=
vetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi Chad,</div><div class=3D"gmail_defaul=
t" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Should =
I place R101, R102 and R103 together? And if I do, should'nt R103 have =
round terminal points at both ends? I assume that the square ones are to be=
connected to the GND.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fami=
ly:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">I am not an electronics expe=
rt.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvet=
ica,sans-serif;font-size:large">torben<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 2:13 PM Chad Parker (<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">parker DOT charles AT gm=
ail.com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank=
">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" t=
arget=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px sol=
id rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Torben-</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>Okay, I see what you're referring to. This is a bug i=
n the tutorial. It looks to me like the first set of figures were created w=
ith an older version of PCB and the other set with a newer one and a later =
date. What likely happened is that the same circuit was used, but the schem=
atic was redrawn when the new figures were added, and because the parts wou=
ld have been arranged differently, the reference designators ended up chang=
ing. The underlying circuit appears to be the same, just the names of the p=
arts have been swapped. You can even see that the footprint of R101 is diff=
erent.</div><div><br></div><div>Ultimately, the rat lines on your pcb shoul=
d be consistent with the connections you made in the schematic. So, as long=
as you connect your parts accordingly, you should be fine.<br></div><div><=
br></div><div>Thanks for pointing this out. We should fix it so that it'=
;s consistent.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>--Chad<br></d=
iv></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Jan 2, 201=
9 at 5:36 PM Torben Friis (<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_=
blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com"=
target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-he=
lp AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br><=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;f=
ont-size:large">Hi Chad,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">The link is:</div><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-s=
ize:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:aria=
l,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><a href=3D"http://wiki.geda-project=
.org/geda:gsch2pcb_tutorial" target=3D"_blank">http://wiki.geda-project.org=
/geda:gsch2pcb_tutorial</a></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font=
-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">best regards</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;fon=
t-size:large">torben<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 10:55 PM Chad Parker (<a href=3D"mailto:par=
ker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via=
<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delor=
ie.com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">=
geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,20=
4);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Torben-</div><div><br></div><div=
>Are you still working through the Bill Wilson tutorial? If so, I'm not=
sure what you mean by page 6. Can you please provide a link to the tutoria=
l you're referring to?<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>-=
-Chad<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed=
, Jan 2, 2019 at 3:44 PM Torben Friis (<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com"=
target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help@=
delorie.com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>>=
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,=
sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi Chad,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" styl=
e=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">I am confused =
by the UBUNTU geda tutorial.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">In the beginning R101,=
R102 and R103 are placed together. On page 6=C2=A0 R102, R201 and R103 are=
placed together in the same place and R102 is placed where R201 was before=
.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sa=
ns-serif;font-size:large">I have other problems - fx with lines created in =
PCB - but I would take one example to see if the confusion is my problem.</=
div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif;font-size:large">torben<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
><div dir=3D"ltr">On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM Torben Friis <<a href=
=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>> w=
rote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0p=
x 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,=
sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi Chad,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" styl=
e=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">I deleted all =
files except Project, one.sch and two.sch and ran gsch2pcb once - and it wo=
rked.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetic=
a,sans-serif;font-size:large">torben<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 11:11 PM Chad Parker (<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">parker DOT charles AT gm=
ail.com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank=
">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" t=
arget=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px sol=
id rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi Torben-</div=
><div><br></div><div>The second time you run gsch2pcb it looks at the diffe=
rences. The first time it may not have picked up all of the elements due to=
footprint name errors. The second time (and all subsequent times) you run =
it, it produces board.<i>new</i>.pcb, which contains the new elements, so t=
hat it doesn't overwrite your original file. To get them into the layou=
t, you have to do as it says: open the layout then go to the file menu, sel=
ect "load layout data to paste buffer", and select board.new.pcb.=
Then you can paste them into the layout.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Alte=
rnatively, if you haven't done any work on the pcb yet, you can delete =
board.pcb and board.new.pcb and rerun gsch2pcb.</div><div><br></div><div>Al=
so, make sure that you execute Select > Disperse All Elements, as someti=
mes the elements will overlap when they're brought into the layout.<br>=
</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>--Chad<br></div><div><br></div>=
</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 =
at 2:44 PM Torben Friis (<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_bl=
ank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" t=
arget=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help=
@delorie.com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></d=
iv><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bord=
er-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi,</div><=
div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif=
;font-size:large">It is rather confusing. When I run gsch2pcb project I get=
:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sa=
ns-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f=
ont-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">--------------------=
--------------<br>Done processing.=C2=A0 Work performed:<br>5 file elements=
and 0 m4 elements added to board.new.pcb.<br><br>Next steps:<br>1.=C2=A0 R=
un pcb on your file board.pcb.<br>2.=C2=A0 From within PCB, select "Fi=
le -> Load layout data to paste buffer"<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 and s=
elect board.new.pcb to load the new footprints into your existing layout.<b=
r>3.=C2=A0 From within PCB, select "File -> Load netlist file"=
and select <br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <a href=3D"http://board.net" target=3D"_=
blank">board.net</a> to load the updated netlist.<br><br>4.=C2=A0 From with=
in PCB, enter<br><br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 :ExecuteFile(board.cmd)<br><br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 to update the pin =
names of all footprints.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:larg=
e">First it does not tally with the description given in the tutorial - I a=
m using the one that comes with Ubuntu.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" s=
tyle=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><=
div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif=
;font-size:large">Second, when I run pcb board.pcb I get only the transisto=
r and the resistor on the screen with a yellow line leading nowhere. Should=
'nt I get both one.sch and two.sch? If I folllow the instructions above=
I add the one.sch to the screen all bundled up. Both one.sch and two.sch a=
ppear to be OK.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:=
arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_d=
efault" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">As=
I say, I am confused.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fami=
ly:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">best ergards<br></div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font=
-size:large">torben<br></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:46 PM Torben Friis <=
<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a=
>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px=
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helve=
tica,sans-serif;font-size:large">It worked. <br></div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:26 PM Chad Park=
er (<a href=3D"mailto:parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">parker.ch=
arles AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=
=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delo=
rie.com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-le=
ft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi To=
rben-</div><div><br></div><div>Welcome to the community! Please feel free t=
o post any questions you may have.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I think the=
issue is that the CONNECTOR is no longer an m4 element, so, it's not g=
enerating it the way the tutorial thinks it should. <br></div><div><br></di=
v><div>Looking through the pcb element footprints, there is, however, a foo=
tprint "CONNECTOR 1 2". I suspect that will serve for your purpos=
es. Please try changing "CONNECTOR 2 1" --> "CONNECTOR 1 =
2" and see if that fixes it.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><di=
v>--Chad<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></d=
iv></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 26, 20=
18 at 7:00 AM Torben Friis (<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"=
_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com=
" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-h=
elp AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br>=
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;b=
order-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helv=
etica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi,<br>This is my first attempt at using =
geda-help.<br><br>When in the Bill Wilson gEDA tutorial I use:<br><br>gsch2=
pcb project<br><br>I get the following message in the log:<br><br>CONN202: =
can't find PCB element for footprint CONNECTOR-2-1 (value=3Dunknown).<b=
r>So device CONN202 will not be in the layout.<br><br>The attributes of the=
connector are.<br><br>device: BNC<br>footprint: CONNECTOR 2 1<br>refdes: C=
ONN202<br><br>I think that I have followed the instructions, so what is wro=
ng?<br>best regards<br>torben<br></div></div></div>
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