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I've seen this bug before, but not had the time to chase it up and
reproduce it.

Do you have a design which reproduces the behaviour reliably which you can
share with me (or any of the other developers).

If you had a spare moment, perhaps you could have a go at finding a
sequence of steps to reproduce (the simpler the better). From what I
recall, the bug does not happen with all parts, so the key may be finding
one (and a particular rotation, given your notes above) to test with.

Peter


On 15 March 2016 at 00:15, James Battat (jbattat AT wellesley DOT edu) [via
geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:

> Unexpected behavior / bug?
>
> If I place an element on the top side of the board, then flip it to the
> back side of the board (by pressing =E2=80=9CB"), the pad size shrinks.
>
> If, instead, I rotate the component by 90 degrees before flipping it to
> the backside, the pad shape is unchanged.  I can then rotate the componen=
t
> on the back-side without any change to the pad size.
>
> For what it's worth, when I click and drag the component on the back side
> (the component with the wrong pad shape), the red outline of the dragged
> object shows the correct pad dimensions.  Perhaps this implies a problem
> with the display (maybe gerbers are fine =E2=80=94 haven=E2=80=99t checke=
d yet)?
>
> As an example, here=E2=80=99s a link to a screen grab of a minimal exampl=
e of this
> problem:
>    http://academics.wellesley.edu/Physics/jbattat/geda/issues/flipbug.htm=
l
>
> Ahhh, just before sending this email, I see that if I close PCB and then
> re-open the file, the problem goes away (i.e. all pads are the right
> size).  So I can work around it, but still, I figured you'd like to know
> (maybe you=E2=80=99re already aware of all of this).
>
> I=E2=80=99m using pcb v1.99z with GTK on debian.
>
> Thanks,
> James
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>I&#39;ve seen this bug before, but not had the t=
ime to chase it up and reproduce it.<br><br></div>Do you have a design whic=
h reproduces the behaviour reliably which you can share with me (or any of =
the other developers).<br><br></div><div>If you had a spare moment, perhaps=
 you could have a go at finding a sequence of steps to reproduce (the simpl=
er the better). From what I recall, the bug does not happen with all parts,=
 so the key may be finding one (and a particular rotation, given your notes=
 above) to test with.<br><br>Peter<br><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_e=
xtra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 15 March 2016 at 00:15, James Batta=
t (<a href=3D"mailto:jbattat AT wellesley DOT edu">jbattat AT wellesley DOT edu</a>) [via=
 <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <span =
dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">=
geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1e=
x">Unexpected behavior / bug?<br>
<br>
If I place an element on the top side of the board, then flip it to the bac=
k side of the board (by pressing =E2=80=9CB&quot;), the pad size shrinks.<b=
r>
<br>
If, instead, I rotate the component by 90 degrees before flipping it to the=
 backside, the pad shape is unchanged.=C2=A0 I can then rotate the componen=
t on the back-side without any change to the pad size.<br>
<br>
For what it&#39;s worth, when I click and drag the component on the back si=
de (the component with the wrong pad shape), the red outline of the dragged=
 object shows the correct pad dimensions.=C2=A0 Perhaps this implies a prob=
lem with the display (maybe gerbers are fine =E2=80=94 haven=E2=80=99t chec=
ked yet)?<br>
<br>
As an example, here=E2=80=99s a link to a screen grab of a minimal example =
of this problem:<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"http://academics.wellesley.edu/Physics/jbattat/geda=
/issues/flipbug.html" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://academics=
.wellesley.edu/Physics/jbattat/geda/issues/flipbug.html</a><br>
<br>
Ahhh, just before sending this email, I see that if I close PCB and then re=
-open the file, the problem goes away (i.e. all pads are the right size).=
=C2=A0 So I can work around it, but still, I figured you&#39;d like to know=
 (maybe you=E2=80=99re already aware of all of this).<br>
<br>
I=E2=80=99m using pcb v1.99z with GTK on debian.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
James<br>
</blockquote></div><br></div>

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