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"presidentbyamendment" <rick_hohensee AT email DOT com> wrote in message
news:e4d5d107-93af-4379-8198-ca7211f52395 AT l35g2000vba DOT googlegroups DOT com...
> On Aug 19, 7:16 pm, presidentbyamendment <rick_hohen DOT  DOT  DOT  AT email DOT com>
> wrote:
> > This is Rick Hohensee.

Are you sure?

(I mean, from the subject line "Hey ..." I would've guessed "hutch--" out of
NSW AU...  If hutch--, haven't they caught you yet?  PDT timezone thru DC on
.edu?)

> > Yes Forreal Mode works.

I'm interested in the technicalities of "Forreal Mode," e.g., how and why,
just to improve my understanding of the x86 cpu.  It seems possible that the
combination of bits could be settable.  However, there is no documentation
that they can be and I suspect they can't be.  It'd be much easier for
someone with an ancient 386 with the 386 LOADALL instruction to verify
proper operation of "Forreal Mode."  Unfortunately, your descriptions in old
posts weren't as informative _to me_ as I'd have preferred.  I haven't had
the time to work through, or rework, your code.

> > I have some code,
> > but it's in my own assembler in Bash. The thing is, you have to
> > handle
> > interrupts in 8086 mode, i.e. you have 66/67h IRET.
> >
> > Or something like that.

I don't have the interest or time to confirm.  Honestly, I can't think of a
good use for this mode...  I've mentioned "Forreal Mode" a few times in
various assembly newsgroups - to spur more interest.  Sorry, it seems that
no one is interested in obscure modes, except maybe "unreal" mode when used
in a bootloader.  Maybe you should mention it in a group oriented towards
technical details of the x86 cpu.

> > Right now I'm running for President :o)

Is he running away from you?  (joking)   ;-)

> > And hello to Randy Hyde if he's around.

He's not here, AFAIK.  He does post every great once in a while to
alt.lang.asm and comp.lang.asm.x86 just to mention updates to his HLA.

> And it looks like
>
> ftp.gwdg.de/pub/cLIeNUX/interim/Forreal.tgz
>
> works.
...


Rod Pemberton

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