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From: "Dan Gold" <TedMat AT CoastNet DOT com>
To: <djgpp AT delorie DOT com>
Subject: Re: newbie
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 15:28:50 -0700
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Well this isn't totally a response to your problem but it might help you
figure out what may have gone wrong. You should have gone to the
http://www.delorie.com/djgpp/ websight and went through their zip picker to
find the files you need. After downloading you make a directory to put
DJGPP and then unzip everything from the files with the -d extension (note:
unzip all from the same directory). Read the readme in the faq section and
put the things in your autoexec and thats it, you should be able to
compile. If there are more than one file with the same filename it's
probably the same file in more than one zip so just overwrite all.  Hope
you found what you did wrong in this.

From Dan Gold...
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From: Neil Prestemon <Neil DOT Prestemon AT NSMG DOT Seagatesoftware DOT com>
To: 'djgpp AT delorie DOT com'
Subject: newbie
Date: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 12:35 PM

Hi,
I recently studied the C language, and I was looking for a cheap/free(beer)
solution to actually writing C programs, and eventually C++, for Windows
(as
opposed to spending hundreds of dollars on MSVC++ and assorted SDKs).  I've
messed around with a few other potential situations, and it looks like
DJGPP
is really the only good one. 

I checked readme.1st, and the FAQ, and I tried to check the mail list, but
the server seems extremely taxed.
I downloaded the files your zipfinder said to download, and I installed
them
as per the instructions, (on NT 4.0), using pkunzip.exe (all in the same
directory, with "-d" to create subdirectories), and I got a buttload of
filename collisions, and errors about being unable to create files.  Some
of
the collisions were on exe's (which tends to worry me a lot more than
collisions on readme.1st revisions), and some of the create errors were on
files with multiple extensions; "something.something.orig" IIRC.  I was
concerned because when pkunzip hits a filename collision, it doesn't tell
you about timestamps, so you can't even make an intelligent choice based on
which is the latest, and the create errors, there's nothing you can do
about, it just scrolls up off the screen.  So without spending the rest of
the day trying to install this stuff, I just used Winzip, to at least avoid
the create errors, and give me the timestamps for collisions so I could
make
a rational choice.  I have no idea whether the omission of these files, or
substitution of the newer files in collision cases would cause harm to the
installation or functionality.

So what I'm asking for, is basically, some guidance on how these collisions
should have been handled - take the newer file, take the older file, did I
get the wrong zipfiles?  etc.  And also on whether, if I unzip using
pkunzip, do these file-create errors cause difficulty, or can they be
ignored, and also, if I unzip using winzip, what exactly is going to go
wrong (because of the long filenames) and is there a workaround (like
changing some setting in a text file somewhere to force 8.3 alias use, or
renaming certain files).  

I'm discouraged that if I'm having this much trouble with simply installing
the stuff, that maybe using it or even programming period is just beyond my
mental capacity.  I mean, I've been gainfully employed in the computer
industry for over 7 years, I just don't know why this stuff is so hard for
me.   I just want to pick up some new skills and make myself less likely to
get laid off when I'm 35, but I don't want to unload a whole lot of cash on
MSVC++, but I don't live in a college dorm where I have hordes of Linux
guru's sitting around waiting to help me with simple little problems like
this. 

I've attached a directory listing of my installation, and the zipfiles I
downloaded, I moved to a top-level directory called "zipsets".

 <<listing.txt>> 

I hope you can help me with this simple problem,
Thanks,
Neil Prestemon
neil DOT prestemon AT veritas DOT com

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