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From: khan AT xraylith DOT wisc DOT edu (Mumit Khan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.djgpp
Subject: Re: -frepo flag, is it supported?
Date: 18 Oct 1998 18:17:03 GMT
Organization: Center for X-ray Lithography, UW-Madison
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In article <Pine DOT SUN DOT 3 DOT 91 DOT 981018160408 DOT 3432D-100000 AT is>,
Eli Zaretskii  <djgpp AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>
>On 18 Oct 1998, Mumit Khan wrote:
>
>>   - use a temporary file. Write a popen like replacement that redirects
>>     both stdout and stderr. I believe the djgpp's popen already uses temp
>>     files, so it's already there in source form to reuse.
>
>Since DJGPP's `popen' already exists, the simplest change is just to use 
>it instead of the usual Unix fork/exec paradigm.

Please note that the "... both stdout and stderr ..." statement above.  
All implementations of popen I know of redirect only stdout, so you 
can't just use popen.

If djgpp's popen redirects both to the same descriptor, then that's a 
non-standard behaviour that I'm not aware of. (I'm not a djgpp user)

>>   - dup/save the parent's stdout/err, spawn the child with the new
>>     descriptors for stdout/err, restore parent's stdout/err and read
>>     from the child's stdout/err.
>
>This is exactly what `popen' does, so why reinvent the wheel?

See above.

>Of course, the real question is does DJGPP at all need -frepo?

If this is the real question, then perhaps you're not a C++ developer, 
and the issue is moot.

Implicit instantiation is impractical in real life due to code bloat; 
Explicit instantiation becomes too hard to maintain and get it right 
portably (eg., different optimization level, and different versions 
of runtime library, may produce different sets of instances of STL 
templates); the only usable choice is some form of automatic 
instantiation in anything other than toy C++ code (or C code written in 
C++ or C++ code written without any serious templates). "-frepo" may 
be a hack at heart, but it's better than anything currently available 
for GNU C++.

Regards,
Mumit

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