Mail Archives: djgpp/1998/08/02/23:45:23
cam and or nenette remove trailing 666 wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Aug 1998 09:12:48 GMT, Merlin <merlin__ AT geocities DOT com>
> added to the entropy with:
> >I am just curious on what most people think about allegro....
> >Not to put down allegro or anything (it does have it's uses) but isn't
> >it sort-of like cheating in a way? I mean, it's like having all the
> >important stuff done for you... the only thing required is an idea
> >(although this is sometimes the hardest part)...
> >I guess allegro is ok for a hobbist programmer and for learning, but for
> >people who want to program for a living... It seems as if they are
> >trying to take a shortcut. Like they are not interested in learning
> >anything but the syntax of a programming language or just plain too lazy
> >to actually do it themselves... In my opinion if you are going to take
> >these kinds of shortcuts it you may as well just ask another programmer
> >to make your program for you... That may seem as though i am calling
> >people who use allegro lazy or stupid but this is not true, most are
> >probably perfectly capable programmers (i have even used allegro a few
> >times, even though i feel like i'm not actually making the program
> >myself)... Anyway, I just thought i'd get everyone's opinion on this (at
> >least everone who answers)...
>
> 1) if i want to test out my new fuel injection system, why do i have
> to build a car from the ground up, including braking, steering, and
> safety systems? (in case you missed it, this is allegorical)
cars != programming :-)
> 2) how is this any different from most professional settings, where
> you work on a team and different people code different parts of the
> project?
it's not... I don't really like that either :-)
>
>
> 3) why do people use GUI design programs?
You assume i am referring to allegro and gui design... I am not. Remember.. I
did say that it had its uses. To you, GUI design must be one of those uses.
> To sum up, I use allegro because i feel no need to develop every damn
> graphical program from the ground up. I'd much rather spend my
> _valuable_ time programming the parts in which i'm interested, and
> spend as little time as possible on the stuff that is needed, but not
> especially relevant to the guts of the program.
Well, that's all I wanted to know... (And if you did think i was accusing you
of cheating, you were wrong. Nowhere in my previous message did I call anyone
a cheater for using allegro. I just don't like to use it myself (i get no
sense of accomplishment after finishing a program where i used allegro).
However if you like to use it then by all means go right I ahead, I will not
stand in your way.
> IMHO, suggesting that people using allegro are "cheating" in some way
> by using allegro only suggests that the person saying it has some
> puritanical view on programming and doesn't program for a living.
You are correct in assuming that i do not program for a living (although if
you think i do not know what it is like then you are incorrect). However
nowhere did i suggest that you or anyone else was cheating when using
allegro. It is just the way i feel about using it myself and i am sorry if
you do not like that, but that is what I think.
Oh yes... as for the "puritanical view on programming"... I couldn't care
less whether or not you or anyone else use allegro or any other libraries
when programming and, as i stated before, i even use them sometimes. And I
was just asking for an opinion, not accusations..
Merlin.
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