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From: Psilon AT concentric DOT net (Avery Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.os.msdos.djgpp,rec.games.programmer
Subject: Re: The numer 1 compiler, DJGPP or MSVC Here's a good rating comparision
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 03:35:50 GMT
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"Russ Williams" <russ AT algorithm DOT demon DOT co DOT uk> wrote:

>Avery Lee <Psilon AT concentric DOT net> wrote in article
><341e6620 DOT 5108437 AT news DOT concentric DOT net>...
>> "Russ Williams" <russ AT algorithm DOT demon DOT co DOT uk> wrote:
>> 
>> >> DJGPP and Watcom are equally good even if DJGPP offers greater
>> >compatibility 
>> >> and portability, MSVC on the other hand is strictly single OS making
>it 
>> >> primitive for large scale production.
>> >
>> >Wrong. VC5 is on Intel x86 and DEC Alpha chipsets, that I know of. WinNT
>> >runs on x86, Alpha, MIPS (and Solaris?) and the Win32 API is portable 
>> >between them. Apparently, id have Quake running on a quad Alpha, with 
>> >about a day's code changes...
>> 
>> You just proved his point by naming three implementations of Windows NT.
>> He said _OS_, not CPU.
>
>Well, if you're going to be pedantic, WinNT, Win95, WinCE are 3 different
>OSs...

Wince? :)

All of which are Windows.  And WinNT and Win95 both use the same
programming interface, Win32, which frankly doesn't say much for the
compiler's ability to generate for different platforms.

This question should really be split into the separate issues of code
generation, IDE, and platform support.  In my opinion, MSVC++ wins the IDE
war (love 4.0's help system) and GCC wins the platform support area (new
platform, recompile GCC and tweak runtime libraries, then spread the new
version throughout the Internet).  I'm not sure which is best in code
generation anymore.

Oh well, dumb question anyway.  What's the use of using a compiler that
everyone else loves and you hate?


-- Avery Lee (Psilon AT concentric DOT net)
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