Mail Archives: djgpp/1997/03/29/12:11:04
> > <jamesl AT mail DOT albany DOT net> writes:
> > >This person even negatively referred to the Bible, the basis for one of
> > >the most followed faiths in the world.
> Well pardon me matey, I wouldnt want to downgrade Eli's exquisite
> FAQ.
Then why did you?
> And Eli, I am greatful for all the time and effort you've spent on it,
> I'm only glad you don't charge for it or we'd all be stuck!
Then why did you use terms of vulgarity and insult in your message to
Eli? quote:
"Read the fucking FAQ its in section blar-d-blar.
FUCK OFF, just tell'em the answer."
You sure have a strange way of showing gratefulness.
>
> > >One question - are we sure that all the subscribers to this list are
> > >adults? What if there are children subscribed (yes, I know of a 14
> > >year old who is quite a good programmer already)?
> Yes and I know of one too, myself I'm only 16, not for much longer
> thank christ. Is a 14 yr old a child? Perhaps by your standards?
Many people take the position of limiting vulgarity on the 'net
because of 'children', but the truth is there probably _aren't_ many
8-10 y.o. reading this list, and 'children' older than that use most
of the vulgarity. So, yes, anybody who feels the need to send an
unprovoked flame that only shows a lack of maturity, and vocabulary,
_is_ a child.
>
> > Thanks for your post. I am 16 years old but don't worry, I've heard
> > _much_ worse. The Bible comment was definetly out of line. I for
> > one can't stand it when people get obsessed with political
> > correctness. But you simply can't go around belittling something
> > that represents the faith of about 48% of the world population. And
> > as Eli pointed out, there are non-Christians who read the Bible.
> And how many people out there AREN'T religious twats? We are living
> in the modern world you know, were, in the UK at least, most people
> are NOT and I do not know if this is representative of the rest of the
> world?
So you're saying that your religious views are typical of the UK?
Supporting evidence? Even if so, quite a bit of the traffic on this
list comes from countries besides the UK. Besides the big one under
Canada, their is also Spain, India, Australia, and several other. But
I guess you're an expert on those countries, too.
>
> > Vulgarity and anti-Christianity will get this group nowhere.
> So we all gotta be 'good little christians'? ahy.
No, not good little Christians. Just leave out religious references
and talk about _programming_. I don't mind being offended, either
religiously or through excessive vulgarity, occasionally, but I'm
(relatively) sure most of the people on this list could do w/o it.
>
> > It's purpose
> > is to provide a place where people can help, be helped, and carry
> > on interesting programming discussions. Flames and disrespectful
> > posts are not appreciated by anyone, and I suspect that their authors
> > don't feel to good about themselves after they send them out.
> And does it do this??? Any one care to comment?
Yes. A definite yes. This is a good place for help, its interesting,
flames aren't appreciated, and you must not feel very good about
yourself.
>
> AW> Alan Wilson <alan DOT wilson AT wilshire DOT com> writes:
> AW> Wow, an anonymous poster.
> AW> Guess he's too afraid to stand behind his words.
> I'm only posting these anonymously because they me be a little
> too harsh for some people to take. Namely those that resemble the publics
> image of a 'programming nerd'.
I've honestly never met a 'programming nerd', and I know several
programmers, and I've met many more. From the quote marks you
apparently know this, but you still feel the need to defend yourself
from someone...who?
> Is it a crime? Am I not allowed to have an
> opinion of my own? Maybe I just don't want all the shite you get with
> speaking out. And further more, I do value being 'part of this group'.
No, its not a crime to post anonymously. Yes, you're allowed to have
an opinion of your own. The only 'shite' (what an interesting
spelling! j/k) you would likely recieve from anyone in this group
would be exactly commensurate with that you gave everyone who
subscribes to the ml and found your pleasant little message in their
mailbox. As for your being 'part of this group', right now, thats
probably stretching it a wee bit.
>
> > Thank you for reading and God bless,
> That's if your religious of course.
At least it indicates a pleasant personality and goodwill towards his
fellow man.
> Cheers
> ----
>
> DON'T be affraid to speak your mind, if you don't,
> you haven't got a mind of your own but someone
> elses.
Of course I have someone else's mind, it was transplanted there last
week. Speaking your mind and making a bumbling ass out of yourself
are two entirely different things. Do yourself a favor and join
another ml/ng for a while, engage in discussions, get your brain
flamed out, and learn what is and is not acceptable in polite
company.
Regards,
Jeff Bachtel
P.S. These latest series of messages argue stronger than anything
else for a moderated, or at least closed, ml.
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