Mail Archives: djgpp/1996/12/05/05:40:53
ego AT juno DOT com wrote:
[...]
> Here are somethings that would confuse newcomers. Some of them confused
> me, and some of them didnt, but here they are.
>
> * All of the unix stuff. (setdjgpp, fileutils, the directory system,
> info)
About setdjgpp:
MSC:
SET HELP=/where/ever/the/help/files/are
SET LIB=/where/the/heck/are/the/libs
[Lots of other SETs forgotten]
BC: A bit easier, admittedly.
Directory System:
BC:
BC\BIN
BC\LIB
BC\INCLUDE
I can see no essential difference.
>
> * How it is packaged. When i first got DJGPP, i didnt know which files to
> get. Even after i read
> readme.txt i still didnt know what i needed. Turbo C came with it's
> IDE, and docs and examples. I know that a lot of packages in DJGPP are
> not supposed to go togehter, but
> if there was some way...
I think the readme.1st says pretty clearly what zips you need to
get started, and which might be of further interest. OK, maybe one
could adopt the emTeX distribution scheme, with something like
v2/basic/disk[1-xx]/
v2/develop/disk[1-xx]/
v2/source/disk[1-xx]
where basic/disk1 would contain a readme.1st or how.to, and an unzip.exe
>
> * Little documentation. Sure the info files are conprehensive, but they
> read like a science textbook. DJGPP needs a good manual, in a txt or
> html form. It also
> needs a sort of tutorial manual, that would explain DJGPP from the
> beggining to end. If someone could write a tutorial for beggining C
> programmers that is built around DJGPP, then DJGPP would not be looked
> a compiler that is too complicated to get started out in.
Hmm. Maybe I'm already too spoiled by knowledge, but what exactly
do you need? Everything that goes beyond how to make a "hello world"
is either better found in a good C book and independant of the compiler,
or that machine-specific that it is of little interest for a newbie.
>
> Theses are just some of the things that i have noticed. Im not saying
> that these things are bad, after a while I got everything, and I
> perfectly happy with DJGPP. Please do not reply with explanations on why
> things are the way they are, I understand perfectly.
> Maybe if someone put together a package that is just for newbies. it
> could contain Everything needed to compile Ansi C programs, RHIDE, a
> couple of examples, and maybe some docs. Then distrubute it around upload
> it to a site. We then in turn could upload it to BBS's around the country
> and spread it around. If we make it as easy as it can be to get started,
> newbies will fall in love with DJGPP and get the whole thing.
Well, if you really want to contribute, have a look at
http://www2.ari.net/flyboy/
sit down for an hour and write something. This project lacks
a comprehensive introduction. So just go ahead.
--
Ciao
Tom
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